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garbage all the way down ([personal profile] trashmod) wrote in [community profile] hydratrashmeme2014-11-15 10:27 am

Chatter post

For all your discussion needs.

Ground rules:
- Try to keep it loosely trash party related, or at least Cap fandom related.
- Disagreement is fine, nastiness is not.
- Being offended is not carte blanche for nastiness.
- Trashmeme ground rules apply. Read at your own risk, no romanticizing your noncon garbage, no wank about the moral acceptability of noncon kink.
- Body shots, sniper shots, and tetanus shots are all available at the open bar. Party like it's 2014, kids.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Am I the only one who's extremely anxious because the dumpster is at 4999? I feel like taking the last one would be like taking the last piece of pizza.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so excited for the first slice of moldy pizza in Dumpster #2!!

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
YASSSSSSSSS THE UNHOLY HELL MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Trash party party post?

*puts old, chewed up Macarena cassette in the dumpster boombox and presses play*

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Dumpster diving tips

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Does anyone have any favorite resources to recommend when writing dumpster fics? In particular, first person accounts of kinks that might be less common. I'm trying to find more information about figging with candy canes but primarily running into bad pornos.

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
For a general kink overview I hit the kink wiki: http://kink-wiki.dreamwidth.org/

For something specific like figging with candy canes I'd hit up anatomy resources for the rectal information, then I'd go watch a fuckton of pulled sugar/seaside rock-making videos on youtube, and then I'd examine the irritant properties of peppermint oil.

I might be doing this trash thing wrong but I'll never look at rock candy dummies (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-GIANT-ROCK-DUMMY-RETRO-SWEETS-CANDY-RED-CLEAR-BABY-SHOWER-HEN-STAG-PARTY-GIFT-/171444489512?pt=UK_Sweets_Chocolate&hash=item27eae34d28) the same way again.

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AOS Hydra Trash

(Anonymous) 2014-12-08 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
SO idk if this is actually trash party related enough to be allowed here but I just wanted to ask since it's technically still hydra garbage: does anyone here watch Agents of SHIELD and if yes am I the only one who's totally into Garrett/Ward and the fucked up power dynamics and trash potential? I thought asking here might bring out some people because there are literaly no fics for this pairing and the AOS fandom is full of people trying to pass off their garbage (skyeward) as romantic so I can't expect anything there

Re: AOS Hydra Trash

(Anonymous) 2014-12-08 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmh as none of them was in CA:TWS I doubt any real prompts would be allowed (but please, correct me if I'm wrong), but maybe the powers that be will allow us to discuss this here.

In my opinion there must be something more to the Garrett/Ward story than what we've officially seen, because all I got from the show was Garrett breaking Ward out of prison and then dumping him in the wilderness. When he returns, he sends Ward off to the Shield academy and Ward is completely brainwashed into believing Garrett is some kind of God. Their dynamic is so interesting and has so much evil brainfuck potential, but that just didn't explain anything to me.

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question about types of trash

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Is Maximoff-and-Hydra related trash considered relevant to the meme? From what we've seen so far, it seems like they're undergoing pretty similar treatment to what Bucky went through, and they were in the thing at the end of CATWS...

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe ask the trashmod on the admin ask post? They're the one who has the final say.

Personally, I'd really prefer to wait until after Age of Ultron comes out for those characters, since we don't know how the MCU is going to handle them. We only have one very short scene and a trailer to go on.

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Spy Game

(Anonymous) 2014-12-10 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Some of us are planning a group watch of Spy Game this weekend and it was suggested that I share details here, sooooo: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XLhshRy3O073wB4R2Y0bh2sfTF6p5Jzt28XEg33wS0Y

Is there any good dark!Steve out there?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-11 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I know dark!good guys are not on-topic for the dumpster, but is there any good stuff out there? I've read some Winter Soldier!Steve, which is sometimes done well, and some really abysmal evil!Steve where he's wildly OOC, but I'm incredibly curious to see if there's any good stuff out there. After all, his history (the beat-up weird kid with a lot to prove, the ball of frustration and rage suddenly given all the power he desperately wanted and never had) could be a villain origin story if it wasn't, you know, Steve Rogers.

Any recs?

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding this request! This fandom is severely lacking in dark!Steve, and I've been craving more ever since I read the Sometimes the Bad Guys Win AU stuff (which for the most part seems to have been deleted, RIP, sob). The fic w/ Bucky torturing some guy while Steve watched made me especially happy c:

...unless that's the OOC evil!Steve you were talking about, in which case...*disappears back under trash pile*

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re: dumpster etiquette

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey trash party -

I'm new, and I was wondering if there's anything the trash party generally considers gauche or in poor taste. I've noticed a number of posts recently that asked for "no ____ characterization" (and one thread that turned into an argument) so I wanted to know if I'm doing it wrong. It does sound like a lot of us are writing from life here, so it makes me nervous if what I'm putting out there is stepping on other people's land mines.

Re: dumpster etiquette

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
If you mean the argument yesterday, I think people were mad about the idea that "Captain America wouldn't do ____" (when ____ was something that people saw as positive and supportive). Maybe people could have been less harsh but given what the conversation was about, I can see why it was hurtful to be told that Steve wouldn't do that.

In general, I think people just naturally get a little grumpy when they're always seeing a characterization that they don't like, but it's just people being grumpy, not that that characterization is against the rules. The only characterization rule as I understand it is not to write bad guys as good, or good guys as bad (including when it's done unintentionally, like the author is writing a good guy as raping someone, but the author doesn't realize it is rape; that would be shut down in a hurry).

"In poor taste" is like the definition of the trash party so no worries about that!

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Rumlow

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm uncomfortable with the growing trend of treating Rumlow as sympathetic/sometimes "nice"/the Asset's favourite handler. It seems like it's pushing on the boundaries of the rules and I personally like awful characters being awful rather than "in a bad situation".

On the other hand, I recognise that this is one of few places where the continuous-rape-porn background to make a lot of the plots work fits in, so.

Thoughts? Anyone else want to see some other Hydra peeps get their share of the limelight? Is this just a don't-like-don't-read situation?

Re: Rumlow

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think maybe it depends? For me personally, sometimes the reader's meta knowledge of the situation adds an extra layer of trash. Like if from Bucky's perspective, Rumlow is "nice" because oh gee, he didn't beat the tar out of him today! :D, that is its own level of psychological horror. Then again, I also take responsibility for writing some of this. (I'm the person doing the crate training thing.) If that fill is OT to the mods, I apologize and I'll stop writing it.

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WWII

(Anonymous) 2014-12-13 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Anyone have any WWII film or book recs to get a feel for the era Bucky & Steve come from?

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like everything I'll end up recommending is so ubiquitous that you may have already seen it, but - If you haven't seen Band of Brothers, immediately get thee to Band of Brothers. ASAP. The Pianist. Fury, whenever it comes out on DVD, if you want to feel really awful about the absolute horror of what Bucky probably saw in the war, and, you know, life in general. Saving Private Ryan, which is fairly bombastic, in true Spielberg style, but certainly worth seeing if you haven't already.

I feel like if you're looking for the horrors of war, it's also worth mentioning Atonement, which is set during WWI but it will give you an idea of the shit that the world was just fresh out of during the period Steve and Bucky would have been growing up in. (Disclaimer: The Horrors of War could be described as a favored genre of mine.)

Sorry if you've already seen these! I am sure that some folks who are far better scholars of WWII could probably make better recommendations.

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Off limits catws characters?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Are any characters off limits in your trash fic? I just read a disturbing one with elderly Peggy Carter getting tormented. That seemed very very wrong.

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All the ladies tbh

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Trash Wishlist?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
With the holidays upon us, I couldn’t help but post this. Is there a prompt or prompts you love so much and wish to see filled? Which ones?

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I was tempted to post either something like this or a fill exchange thread. I'll need to find a old unfilled favorite prompt now.

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HYDRA trash party OCs

[personal profile] writingcyan 2014-12-16 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
I made a list of all the HYDRA OCs I could find in the dumpster, their origins and appearances; maybe others might find it useful too? Please let me know if I've gotten details wrong or left anyone out!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uw_EUy4ZGnO0Tx05WuwqnCg7K1N9zFOoWRnEMku1KHo

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Everything about this is amazing, but I particularly love Westfahl, first name "Dammit".

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HYDRA Trash Party variety hour

(Anonymous) 2014-12-20 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
Parodies, crack, limericks, bad puns, storied adventures of Westfahl; whatever fills your cryotank. Definitely not a gratuitous prompt to attach a song parody to. (Seriously though why not limericks)

Welcome to the HYDRA Dumpster Party

(Anonymous) 2014-12-20 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
On a dark fandom evening, got wind of a place
Somewhere off of tumblr, made of shame and disgrace
Far below in the dumpster, I saw some noncon delights
Was reaching for em but I fell right in
I felt my pants getting tight

There it was at the bottom
In a pool of old milk
I was thinking to myself
This could be awesome, but it might make me ill
Then the raccoons descended, and they stole me away
There were echoes from the garbage chute
Thought I heard them say

Welcome to the Hydra dumpster party
Such an awful place
Such a foul disgrace
Plenty of room at the Hydra dumpster party
Any time of year
You can find it here

The Hydra kinkmeme is twisted, got all sorts of bad ends
We got a lot of sexy beat-up boys, all messed up in their heads
Now the authors are writing, fill after fill
They could write something nicer, but I don’t think they will


So I messaged the trashmod
Please let me join in
They said, you can settle into the trash
Just put the lid on the bin
And now the haters are howling from far away
If they show up well we’re gonna treat em right
Please enjoy your stay

Welcome to the Hydra dumpster party
Such an awful place
Such a foul disgrace
Livin' it up at the Hydra dumpster party
What a rude surprise
Bring some moldy fries

Shackles on the ceiling
A spider gag on his face
I was only stopping by, but I sure like this place
In the cryo chamber they’re putting him to sleep
Gotta get some beauty rest
When they ream him out that deep

Last thing I remember, I was
Lying on the floor
I had some kind of garbage hat made of greasy apple cores
Relax, says the trashdad
As he’s scrollin’ down the screen
You can shower anytime you like, but you can never be clean

[wicked guitar solo]

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-23 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This trashbaby would like to report that a successful and thoroughly enjoyable trashfriends meetup happened in London tonight. I'm not sure if it was the first, but I hope it won't be the last.

AoU get-together next year, y/y? I believe there has been talk of one in DC; I'd be happy to organise a London one.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
won't even lie, i would be willing to travel down from scotland for a trashfriends/aou get together

Find a fic

(Anonymous) 2014-12-23 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this meme big enough for a fic finding thread yet? No?

Anyway, does anyone know where I can find the fic where the Winter Soldier starts developing breasts?

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-24 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This what you were looking for? http://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/587.html?thread=815179#cmt815179

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
I felt the need to defend myself after the replies I got here: http://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/1504.html?thread=1562080#cmt1562080 and I didn't want to spam the prompts post with it, so I figured this was the only place left, I hope that's okay.

I do not, under ANY circumstance, think that Steve and the Avengers would be okay with it at all, I specified "Trash!Avengers and Trash!Steve AU" for that exact reason.

I guess my mistake was interpret "dark!good guys AUs" in a different way, probably because I find many of the prompts and fics here consist of exactly that, so I'm not sure where the line is drawn.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Did you read the rules? Your prompt broke several of them, and that's why it got frozen.

http://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/427.html

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Build your own squid

(Anonymous) 2014-12-29 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It seemed tangentially, tenuously relevant. I'm sorry I'm off work for mandatory holidays somebody please restrain me

http://squid.tepapa.govt.nz/build-a-squid/interactive

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Oh wow, that squid gives off the same vibes as a Creepy Mall Santa. COME PLAY WITH MY TENTACLES UNSUSPECTING ONES!

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Has anyone considered an ask an anon thread? How would people feel about making a thread where people can post what they've had actual real experience with in terms of kinks or sexual acts, and people could reply with questions? Either for pure TMI or for fic researching purposes


I know a lot of the stuff written here is definitely beyond what people will have done, but there's stuff that people will have done, surely.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Have you ever wanted to write fanfic of fanfic?

I’ve been reading Of Broken Dreams and Mended Hearts by Kellyscams and yes I do enjoy this steampunk AU where Steve is the most perfect husband to ever be perfect . . . but now I want the AU of the AU where Bucky instead got married to Pierce. Once Lady Barnes declared Bucky eligible for marriage, Pierce immediately jumped on that because Steve took too long wondering if Bucky would be happy with him or not.

Anyways, cue marriage from hell, each chapter would be an exercise in noncon and dubcon and gaslighting. Pierce does things like have the sigil removed from the metal arm before the marriage and consummate the marriage on the carriage ride from the wedding ceremony to the reception. Everyday for Pierce is an exercise in putting Bucky in his place, complete with help from Rumlow.

Bucky now finds himself basically imprisoned in his husband’s mansion. If he’s good, Bucky’s rewarded with sex that at least, for him, isn’t painful. But if he’s bad, he’s got the stuff of nightmares to look forward to at night. But if he’s really good, he gets a date night out with husband, carefully chosen by said husband of course. And if Pierce is really scheming to use Steve’s crush on Bucky to get Rogers family secrets and to eventually crush both Steve and Bucky, then all the better for his goals for world domination.

Pierce gets a sex toy and house manager and accidental spy into the Rogers family; Zola gets a metal arm to experiment on; and Rumlow gets a sex toy. Really, for Pierce, his taking Bucky was the best idea Rumlow ever came up with. And BTW: Pierce is old, let’s be real. Of course Pierce arranges things so that Rumlow is next in line to be Bucky’s husband.

Sometimes, I love reading Steve-is-made-of-gold-and-sunshine fluff. But sometimes, I feel like taking a dive into a dumpster. KWIM?

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I have! It's not HTP related. but there was this fic once, which had an OC that died before the story happened. I loved the OC and I wanted to write fanfiction of him and the character together and kinky and happy (before he died) annndd I never got to ask the author if I could do that... so it never happened D:

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-15 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
I wrote a gift for someone as part of an exchange, and it's very HTP related. Actually, for all intents and purposes, it is HTP. Would it be okay to post it here as an unprompted fill? I do have permission from the giftee. I just wanted to make sure it was alright with the people here.

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As far as I know, that's totally legit. Just post a little summary first and add the actual fill as the first comment, so that the meme stays easily accessible for mobile users.

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sexual shame????

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
anyone wanna talk about shame/dealing with real life trash interests (all consensual though dw abt that) because I struggle to get off without having some element of trash (for lack of a better term) and ppl usually say oh but 'it won't be that way when you are with another person!' except lo and behold I couldn't get off when with another person and only found myself sexually enjoying it (my experiences as a whole have been...pleasant, if not arousing) when I hurt them/ think about trashy stuff

people always tend to reiterate that as long as you stick to fiction you aren't a bad person so like, what does that make me if it is part of my real life, and I can't get off without this stuff? idk this is probably tmi

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I think you should find subs, or just one sub wanting a stable dom, into pain play and start a thing with them. I think there's nothing bad with kinks, even in RL, if they are expressed with consent from both sides. Have luck, anon.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-18 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even go here, but I'm a fan of your work, and I saw this and thought I should share.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch

It seemed like a thing you guys should know about.

Littering on ao3

(Anonymous) 2015-01-20 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)

I admit, I don't go here. Trash triggers me, so I avoid it, you write it over here, and we all live happily ever after. I think collecting it all on one meme is great. From what I understand, one of the main tenets about the trashmeme is that it happens in it's own self-contained bubble. What happens on the trashmeme stays on the trashmeme. Those who like it can enjoy it in like-minded company, and those who are triggered by it don't have to worry about stumbling across it.

It then seems a bit contradictory to post trashfic to ao3.
Ao3's filtering system is terrible. It takes a fuckload of hacking to even try to make it usuable, and things still slip through. It's not at all a safe experience for those who don't want to see trash. Trying to find fic about my favorite character shouldn't be like playing Russian roulette.

I'm not saying 'don't write trash'. I'm just asking you to be considerate and keep it confined to designated spaces like this one. It's much easier for you to collect it all in a wastebin than it is for me to swerve all over the bike path trying not to puncture my tires on an old beer bottle.

Re: Littering on ao3

(Anonymous) 2015-01-20 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
D:..... I rather like to picking garbage and collect them on AO3...And I do think most trash post there did label/tag as much they could, so it should be easy to filter out?

*Really, sometime it is very difficult to track and read in the journal system, even I do track and received in the mail, so AO3 collection is still need there*

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Tumblr drama

(Anonymous) 2015-01-22 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently there's been some sort of wank on tumblr over the trash party. Could someone give me a rundown, please? I don't go on tumblr very much as I find the platform to be very frustrating.

Re: Tumblr drama

(Anonymous) 2015-01-22 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the best thing is to look at this thread: http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/120414.html?thread=618427230#cmt618427230

The links to the Tumblr drama are linked above. There was also drama exploding after someone made a group-hug post that was then sabotaged by the same HTP-naysayer. I'll link to the OP's group-hug post; if you scroll down you may find links to the reblogs: http://regularpolyhedra.tumblr.com/post/108628029741/ive-met-some-of-the-most-amazing-kind-creative

The gist of the whole drama is: a HTP naysayer went on some kind of moral crusade in the HTP tag on tumblr. At least one person was hurt by the comments (such as the OP in the first link) while others were just giving out group hugs (second link) but the naysayer still attacked them.

(that's probably not the best summary, but these two links should tell you everything.)

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