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garbage all the way down ([personal profile] trashmod) wrote in [community profile] hydratrashmeme2014-05-30 03:36 pm

Rules/Page-a-Mod

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WHAT THE FUCK EVEN IS THIS PLACE:

Once upon a time, in the glory days following the release of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, all the angry Tumblr yelling about Sebastian Stan's "just rolled out of a gutter behind the world's seediest gay bar" chic hopped into bed with a bunch of lewd speculation about metal arms, stun batons, magnetic handcuffs, and obedient brainwashed assassins getting passed around Hydra office parties. Thus was the Hydra Party Favor trash party born, and we've been doing appalling nonconsensual things to super-soldiers ever since.

RULES:

1. Don't be a jerk (except to fictional characters).

This is, of necessity, arbitrary and subject to the mod's judgement. Arguing with the mod about what constitutes jerk behavior isn't jerk behavior in and of itself, and neither is opining that another commenter is being a jerk and asking them to knock it off, but don't be a jerk about doing those things.

2. This meme is a choose-not-to-warn experience.

Giving advance warning for particularly fucked-up stuff is polite, but nobody's going to twist your arm if you don't.

3. Here be non-con kink. Deal with it.

If you want to get judgey about the fact that some people get off on dirtybadwrong things happening to their favorite characters, this isn't the venue for that debate. If non-con/dub-con triggers or upsets you, with all the sympathy in the world, I advise you to run far, far away for your own safety. THAT SAID, feel free to get judgey over non-con that isn't acknowledged as such. You want to crash in this dumpster, you've got to fucking own the trashiness of your kinks.

Specifically, trash party kinks hard on the awfulness of straight-up non-con, torture, and abuse. If what grinds your gears is non-con that the story doesn't acknowledge due to badwrong in-universe rules of consent, whether it's rape-is-love ravishment fantasy or Gor-esque slavefic or various flavors of a/b/o and D/s-verse, hey, as long as you're not the one claiming it's consensual, we're all filthy perverts of equal standing... but that's not the dynamic that drives this party, so trashmeme isn't the place to get your fix.

4. Management reserves the right to delete off-topic posts at will.

[community profile] hydratrashmeme is a niche kinkmeme, and much like the exact nature of jerkitude, the exact boundaries of the niche are an arbitrary judgement call. I'm not up for rules-lawyering or hair-splitting about what constitutes the nature of Hydra Trash Party. I showed up to Hydra Trash Party several weeks late with Starbucks, bro, I don't even have the right to define the Zen of Garbage. That said, to give you a feel for what this place is about:

A non-exhaustive list of things that are definitely on topic: Hydra doing terrible things to Bucky Barnes, Hydra doing terrible things to Steve Rogers, Hydra making them do terrible things to each other, pretty much anything that could be described as "bad people do dirtybadwrong things to your faves, Cap fandom edition," fucked-up violence kink of any degree of consensuality, meta crack about the trash party

A non-exhaustive list of things that are definitely off topic: prompts not centered around Cap franchise characters (anyone who was in CA:TFA or CA:TWS counts), dark!Steve/dark!Avengers/OOC good guys doing dirtybadwrong things to your faves, A/B/O, D/s-verse, non-superpowered AUs, soulbond AUs, screwy in-universe rules of consent, prompts that blur lines about what is actually consensual and what isn't

A non-exhaustive list of gray areas: aftermath/recovery prompts (fine if heavily focused on past badwrong), appearances from other Marvel characters (fine as cameos if the main focus is on a Cap character, not fine as a backdoor for Tony Stark/Loki/Grant Ward/etc to steal the show)

Yes, this means there are several flavors of non-con and general fucked-upness that [community profile] hydratrashmeme just ain't here to provide. Hydra Party Favor Trash Party 2014 started out doing one thing and doing it well, and this meme's focus is expanded slightly from there, but it still isn't all things to all people all the time. For itches that the trash meme is disinclined to scratch, may I recommend the fine purveyors of smut over at [community profile] capkink, [livejournal.com profile] avengerkink, [community profile] avengers_kink, [livejournal.com profile] marvel_cinekink, and the many other Marvel kinkmemes that would be delighted to receive prompts for any kink under the sun.

5. Kinkmeme etiquette dispute not covered in the rules? Try to sort it out peaceably on your own before calling in the mod.

This dumpster is largely self-regulating. If some well-meaning anon tries to hijack your prompt or otherwise steps on your toes, be civil with them, but go ahead and clarify that you Do Not Want. Assume good faith wherever you can. Don't play "gotcha!" with random people's comments; you are not the vigilante etiquette cop Gotham needs or deserves. The mod will intervene if things get nasty, but as long as self-regulation keeps working for us, it would be bad for everyone's blood pressure to have the mod policing the finer points of dumpster deportment.

The ins and outs of kinkmeme etiquette are beyond the scope of this rules post, so I'll leave you to Google it unless multiple people want me to draw up a set of basic guidelines for Shit Trashmod Won't Harass You For But Other Anons Might. Prompt hijacking is the only faux pas that seems to happen with any degree of regularity here anyway.

One trashmeme-specific request: unprompted fills are more than welcome, but instead of putting the full text of the fic directly in the thread-starter comment, please post an intro comment and then reply to it with the fic text so that people can collapse it if they don't want to scroll. Or just make a prompt and self-fill on the sly.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-30 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey --

is this maybe a thread that should be frozen? http://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/587.html?thread=895819#cmt895819

(Anonymous) 2014-11-01 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Hey trashmod! A question for you: I wrote a fill for a prompt that spiralled wildly out of control into a 90,000-word epic. It still contains all the elements of the prompt, but it also contains a lot of other stuff too. I read your comment above about recovery fic, and while I'd like to say that the aftermath of Bucky's Hydra Trash Party experience plays a prominent role, I'd still like to know if it's all right by you for me to post a link to it here - at the very least I'd just like the prompter to know that their prompt has been (excessively) filled.

Thank you!

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-11-01 05:15 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) 2014-11-04 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
While I have complete faith in this dumpster's ability to make anything into a horrorshow (and forced feedings are already 90% of the way there), I don't see any difference between this request http://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/587.html?view=flat&page=142#comments
and the snot one that was frozen back in the early days of this magnificent meme.

Additionally, I think due to the tone of the request, it skirts pretty close to the whole "trying to pass one's bananas peels as a romantic dinner for two" in particular: and somehow being total bros about it the whole time.

Sorry for the being the improperly-properly-disposed-of pill in the dumpster.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone was talking about RPing, and it made me think about whether there was a dedicated landfill for connecting w/ RP partners, betas, etc.

Civil War bullshit

(Anonymous) 2014-11-12 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
For those of us that are dorks enough to know what it means since MCU has said, yeah, we're doing civil war, what are the rules about having fun with that? I don't want want to spoil people who don't want to be spoiled, but I'm already craving trashy fics about Brock mesmerizing agent 13, Bucky beating the living shit out of Brock after he kills his sweetheart, and of course the endless amounts of emotion porn revolving around Bucky not ever having alone time with Steve before he got killed because Bucky was such a giant pussy.

When do we get to prompt/discuss this horrible shit? What is your decree, trashmod?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
trash mod, lately we've been getting a lot of unprompted fills. While I think the more fic the merrier, it does really make scrolling on mobile a bitch and doesn't require expanding a fic that might be squicky to some people. Can we maybe redirected unprompted fills to another post? Or require them to take two comments? Or idk. Just what's going on right now doesn't seem to jive.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
Question(s):
Is 1940s-era Peggy Carter free for torture-by-Hydra or are we staying away from First Avenger-related stuff?

Also any guidelines with Sharon Carter? She was barely in WS, but she's a pretty great character in the comics and I can see some trash potential there.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Do the Maximoff siblings count as being in CA: TWS?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-10 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Can we bring in bad guys from the comics like Yelena Belova or Alexander Lukin, if the primary focus is on characters who were in TWS? Are Red Room based prompts OK? I know it hasn't been mentioned in the MCU, but it was pretty big in the comics, and there's all sorts of trashy potential there. And there was an implication in TWS that HYDRA had infiltrated the Soviets as well as SHIELD.

mirror 'verse

(Anonymous) 2014-12-16 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Just for future reference, would fics involving the star trek style mirror-verse that's been going around tumblr (http://stoatsandwich.tumblr.com/tagged/mirror-universe-mcu) and the HTP irc be considered acceptable as unprompted fills?

Assuming they focus on relevant characters in/from canon-verse somehow interacting with it, would that still fall under the "no evil!vengers" and "no AUs" policies?

(I generally appreciate the "don't plant kudzu" approach, so I can totally see why this might be banned wholesale)

prompt hijacking

(Anonymous) 2014-12-21 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I wanted to ask what the meme’s policy on prompt hijacking is? I’ve seen a number of prompts, including my own, where a reply to the original prompt may be considered prompt hijacking in that it changes the original prompt without the OP’s consent (in cases where the OP isn’t exchanging ideas with the replier and so on.) An example I came across is here: http://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/587.html?thread=1291083#cmt1291083

As the OP of that prompt I would prefer any potential fill respond to my prompt. The reply can be used as a new prompt inspired by the old, and I for one would love to see more drug related prompts on the meme anyway, so the more the merrier?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-25 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This seems more like generic woobie recovery than actual trash.

http://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/1504.html?thread=1553376#cmt1553376

(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
I just noticed this post has been edited and I think it's delightful and just wanted you to know, trashmod.

Yikes...

(Anonymous) 2015-01-03 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Might want to get on this real quick, my dear Mod.

http://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/1504.html?thread=1573600#cmt1573600

Is WS!Steve allowed?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-11 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure where this falls on the dark!hero spectrum.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-12 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey mod, I know there was some discussion of continuing unfinished fills from an old post in the main one, did you come to a decision on that?

(Anonymous) 2016-05-08 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I think I messed up and posted a "dark good guys" prompt here: http://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/1801.html?thread=4026889#cmt4026889

Unsure if it should be deleted or not? If so, I will make sure my next prompt avoids that.

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