There have been... a lot of comments recently by anons who don't seem fully aware of what hydratrashmeme is about. From context, it sounds like they're interpreting "trash" as either "raunchy kink stuff that might get me anon hate on Tumblr" or "any kind of bad, whumpy, dehumanizing stuff happening to a character."
And to be fair, it's not like #2 is even inaccurate. Just incomplete, in that it doesn't account for how specialized and idiosyncratic the usage has become on the HTP kinkmeme. "Bucky Barnes, Hydra party favor" -> "Hydra party favor trash party 2k14" -> "Hydra trash party" -> tropes about "Bucky's trash past" as a Hydra party favor -> "trash" as shorthand or even euphemism for "Bucky and/or Steve and/or another CA:TWS character get the bejeezus raped outta them."
Most of those have plenty of context cues that the entire premise of HTP is one giant noncon-fest, but I've seen more and more uses of "trash" on its own to mean "you know, the kind of stuff we write here, wink wink nudge nudge." Which seems to have unmoored itself from what it originally referred to, because now we've got anons using "trash party" as a synonym for "orgy" or flat-out asking "Wait, by 'trash' do you mean sex?"
Presumably those anons picked up on the "filthy kink stuff" or "terrible things happen to Bucky Barnes" implications and, IDK, assumed that much like Avengerkink ended up with a disproportionate woobie!Tony fixation, Hydratrashmeme ended up with a disproportionate noncon fixation. Or something. When no, what we've got is a premise.
Just going to end this with Trashmod's reply to the "By 'trash' do you mean sex?" comment, which lays out the premise in a nutshell but got buried in the thread:
"To the extent this kinkmeme has a unifying purpose, it's taking the high-quality whump supplied by canon and dragging it to places that are nasty, filthy, and wrong. So yeah, the badwrong sex aspect is pretty non-optional." https://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/2271.html?thread=6010847#cmt6010847
I'd be even more explicit than that: HTP may have room around the edges for other variants of 'badwrong,' but its basic premise has always been "OK, what if CA:TWS, but with a fuckton of noncon included in the brutality?" I'd assumed that was common knowledge. It's really frickin' surreal to see a bunch of people who apparently never got that memo participating in the HTP kinkmeme--what do they think they're contributing to?
Anyway. We might wanna reconsider using "trash" as a vague euphemism for HTP's subject matter, because unintended side effects. Besides, it's HTP, what's the point of euphemisms? If you're asking someone else to write rape recovery fic for you, surely you can use the actual word to describe the thing you want to read.
Are we having some kind of communication breakdown?
And to be fair, it's not like #2 is even inaccurate. Just incomplete, in that it doesn't account for how specialized and idiosyncratic the usage has become on the HTP kinkmeme. "Bucky Barnes, Hydra party favor" -> "Hydra party favor trash party 2k14" -> "Hydra trash party" -> tropes about "Bucky's trash past" as a Hydra party favor -> "trash" as shorthand or even euphemism for "Bucky and/or Steve and/or another CA:TWS character get the bejeezus raped outta them."
Most of those have plenty of context cues that the entire premise of HTP is one giant noncon-fest, but I've seen more and more uses of "trash" on its own to mean "you know, the kind of stuff we write here, wink wink nudge nudge." Which seems to have unmoored itself from what it originally referred to, because now we've got anons using "trash party" as a synonym for "orgy" or flat-out asking "Wait, by 'trash' do you mean sex?"
Presumably those anons picked up on the "filthy kink stuff" or "terrible things happen to Bucky Barnes" implications and, IDK, assumed that much like Avengerkink ended up with a disproportionate woobie!Tony fixation, Hydratrashmeme ended up with a disproportionate noncon fixation. Or something. When no, what we've got is a premise.
Just going to end this with Trashmod's reply to the "By 'trash' do you mean sex?" comment, which lays out the premise in a nutshell but got buried in the thread:
"To the extent this kinkmeme has a unifying purpose, it's taking the high-quality whump supplied by canon and dragging it to places that are nasty, filthy, and wrong. So yeah, the badwrong sex aspect is pretty non-optional."
https://hydratrashmeme.dreamwidth.org/2271.html?thread=6010847#cmt6010847
I'd be even more explicit than that: HTP may have room around the edges for other variants of 'badwrong,' but its basic premise has always been "OK, what if CA:TWS, but with a fuckton of noncon included in the brutality?" I'd assumed that was common knowledge. It's really frickin' surreal to see a bunch of people who apparently never got that memo participating in the HTP kinkmeme--what do they think they're contributing to?
Anyway. We might wanna reconsider using "trash" as a vague euphemism for HTP's subject matter, because unintended side effects. Besides, it's HTP, what's the point of euphemisms? If you're asking someone else to write rape recovery fic for you, surely you can use the actual word to describe the thing you want to read.