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garbage all the way down ([personal profile] trashmod) wrote in [community profile] hydratrashmeme2014-11-15 10:27 am

Chatter post

For all your discussion needs.

Ground rules:
- Try to keep it loosely trash party related, or at least Cap fandom related.
- Disagreement is fine, nastiness is not.
- Being offended is not carte blanche for nastiness.
- Trashmeme ground rules apply. Read at your own risk, no romanticizing your noncon garbage, no wank about the moral acceptability of noncon kink.
- Body shots, sniper shots, and tetanus shots are all available at the open bar. Party like it's 2014, kids.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Lol not really. Just laughing. At this point, I think there's nothing else left to do.

I assume I'm not the only one to notice that an anon with the exact pompous, pedantic written style turned up to white knight for OP at the exact moment OP declared they were flouncing from the thread.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
:sigh:

I don't know who the OP was and frankly am amazed that you can't tell our styles apart--though being that bad with a close reading explains a bit about the damn-the-torpedoes quality of the whole thing--and, once again, think that the OP's post was ill-advised and certainly ill-phrased. You are of course free to think I'm a liar, but rest assured I've had no slightest wish to address you as "dear anon".

However, it's bedtime here. Lest I be accused of "flouncing", I would like to explicitly say that I will be back. Unless you get a goddamn clue and let your silence ring. That'd be awesome.

I've said for years that nothing productive ever comes of any conversation that starts "Hey, asshole!", and this one is certainly no exception.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
I log into DW, set the threads to track, and then log back out again. You don't have to be logged in to get the update emails.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Alright, I'll take your word that you're a new anon - in which case I'll ask you why you keep coming back to hurl around personal insults and aspersions about my reading comprehension under the guise of being 'above' this sort of petty internet squabble. Lead by example, etc. etc.

To be honest, at this point I'm still replying purely because I'm getting cranky and petty and don't want to end the conversation on your say-so. It's been a while since anything worthwhile happened in this thread, but I stand by my original position and will absolutely repeat the whole thing if any more patronising jackasses show up to the party. I don't share your enthusiasm for silence in the face of irritation.

I don't know why that bothers you so much, and I don't know why, if you're so invested in ending the discussion, you keep trying to have the last word. *I* want the last word too, but at least I'm being honest about it and not preaching on about the virtues of shutting up with no apparent sense of irony.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
"manipulative pass-agg bullshit"

Those words, I think they do not know what you think they mean.

Provided you were the same person whining about entitled tumblr authors and undeserved gold stars, this is hilarious, because this is the most tumblr shit I've seen on this thread. Don't like what someone is saying? Quick, accuse them of being manipulative. You forgot to add that they're bad for your mental health or something. I'm surprised how few people have commented on *your* bs.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
I am absolutely certain those words mean what I think they mean. I've seen enough fandom wank over the years to recognise when people are trying to control a conversation through disingenuous tactics. OP anon is textbook, and I'm happy to talk through my reasons for that claim in more detail and with quotes from their comments if you'd like me to. Honestly, I can't sleep and I have nothing better to do with my time right now.

Alternatively, you can go back to fail_fandomanon and stop trying to spoil our perfectly good in-house wank.

Also not an ad hoc accusation, for the record and for any casual observers. Please see the following thread, which happened pretty much simultaneous to this sudden wank resurgence:
http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/227708.html?thread=1261908348#cmt1261908348

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
NA has no idea what the fuck happened in this thread, but I hope you kids are enjoying yourselves. Just don't forget to reapply lube periodically or it might start to chafe.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm all lubed up and ready to go, boss.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no, lube? The best part of dumpster sex is the chafing!
Wait, I'll... escort myself to the promt post.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright, I'll take your word that you're a new anon - in which case I'll ask you why you keep coming back to hurl around personal insults and aspersions about my reading comprehension under the guise of being 'above' this sort of petty internet squabble.

Because I don't like bullies.

Someone said a stupid thing and you jumped on in, swinging wildly--I think my favorite was the charges of ableism for daring to like some writers more than others. (Also still waiting on WTF 'America-centric' is supposed to mean.) It was fucking textbook. And I am still trying to learn the lesson about wrestling with a pig, so here we are.

*I* want the last word too, but at least I'm being honest about it and not preaching on about the virtues of shutting up with no apparent sense of irony.

The time to shut up was when someone said a stupid thing and you decided to fall upon them like the wrath of an extremely petty god. Too late for that now, so I'm trying to give you an out: Don't reply and you win.

Besides, I can't stop now; you'll say I'm flouncing! It's so convenient, having that to claim victory with when your opponent gets tired.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think my favorite was the charges of ableism for daring to like some writers more than others.

Where on earth did you get that from? No, seriously, how did you manage to get that from this?

If you don't like bullies, you might want to rethink the personal attacks you fling around.

/NA

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
2016-11-15 1:37 am: "I’ve clearly also dipped a little close to asshole territory with my comments on people requesting without filling.
A little? You said some of the most entitled, America-centric bullshit I heard in a long time. "Ableist"'s on top of the list, too."

This being in reply to OP's mention of "encouraging good writers for their efforts".

If you don't like bullies, you might want to rethink the personal attacks you fling around.

Look up the definition of 'bully', please. It doesn't mean what you think it means.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. That was a response to this:

I’ve clearly also dipped a little close to asshole territory with my comments on people requesting without filling. I still have thoughts on that, but the sheer amount of huffy defensiveness so early in this thread makes me feel it’s probably not the right moment for nuanced discussion of how we can encourage an active filler culture without excluding people who for whatever reason aren’t confident writers. For the time being, non-filler nonnies, I’m sorry for being a dick and minimising your contributions.

Which is someone disagreeing with the OP. Not to the OP. No one has called the OP ableist, just condescending and patronising.

I think you need to look up the word hypocrite, or maybe just stop trolling.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, I'm sorry, I forgot that context doesn't matter. Silly of me.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
NA

Alternatively, you can go back to fail_fandomanon and stop trying to spoil our perfectly good in-house wank.

No, we don't want entitled preachy pass-agg feedback beggars any more than you do.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, dude, the ableism comment *wasn't me*. That was some other anon having a yell at me (not OP) for my disparaging comments about requesters who don't also fill. This would be less funny if you hadn't been all snooty at me about my reading comprehension.

And it's nice to hear you're doing this because you don't like bullies. Given the enthusiasm and readiness with which you've been throwing around personal insults, for a second there I got a very different impression of your motives. My bad. Steve Rogers would be proud of you.

'Flounce' is not some cunning new insults I've made up - it's a common term for a very specific behaviour wherein someone who's been involved in online wank makes a melodramatic ~goodbye cruel world~ post about how they're leaving forever because you big pack of meanies wouldn't give me what I wanted and look, aren't you all sorry now? For examples of a flounce post, you can look through Google or just browse upthread a bit. Scout's honour, I have never once used the word to refer to someone quietly leaving a discussion they got tired of and I'm not about to start now.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
And by the way - your 'wrestling with a pig' comment is more than a little dehumanizing. Yes, I know it's an Orwell quote and no that doesn't change the impact. Please don't refer to me as an animal again.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, dude, the ableism comment *wasn't me*.

Oh? My apologies, then. That specific example of nastiness must be laid at some other door.

Given the enthusiasm and readiness with which you've been throwing around personal insults, for a second there I got a very different impression of your motives.

Look up the definition of "bully", please. It doesn't mean what you think it does.

'Flounce' is not some cunning new insults I've made up

Er, yes, I'm aware of that, having been on the net for longer than five minutes.

Remember: stop, and you win.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Bully (n): a person who says rude things on the internet and won't let the argument drop. Unless they are doing it for reasons of Great Justice, in which case they are justified in saying as many mean things as they like and everyone should be grateful to them.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
If you know what flounce means, why are you so scared you'll be accused of it?

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I said "look up", not "make up". It's cute, though.

What I tell you three times is true: you stop, you win!

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe this is happening because we haven't had a good round of anti wank in the tag recently. Here, I'll start: Fiction is the same as abuse! People who write about villains are literal Nazis! The HTP endorsed Trump! Please, anything but this nonsense wank.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't be such a wet blanket, nonnie. Anti wank is awful and depressing; this wank is just a couple of us blowing off some steam and having fun. I think it's pretty damn obvious that no one left in the thread is seriously mad anymore.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-15 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you.

Also check your dictionary again! My definition is a literal copy-paste from the online OED. If yours is saying different, maybe you should post your preferred definition here so that we can settle our dire linguistic conundrum honourably.

Re: Dumpster, we need to talk!

(Anonymous) 2016-11-17 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I have nooooo idea what got the other anon(s?) so pissed off about this post.

As an author, I write for comments, 100%. English isn't my first language, and writing even a short paragraph takes a lot of time and effort. 500 words can take me several days to write. When people don't comment on my fics, I worry my prose isn't up to the standards set by native speakers. I spent hours on something, prioritised it over other things I could have been doing with my time, and nobody cared. That hurts.

I practise the belief that if an author made me read all the way to the end of their story, they deserve a comment. Even if it's not my kink, even if the writing isn't Penguin Classics-level, they managed to keep my interest piqued, and that deserves a nod of approval.

I like the posts on tumblr reminding people to comment, and I thought your reminder here was good too, especially since we can't leave likes or kudos on fics. I'm not sure why this makes people mad.

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