The Big Bad Civil War Spoiler Thread a.k.a. The Extra Spoiled Trash

[kallanda_lee]

You asked for it. Here it is. Are you excited yet?

HERE BE SPOILERS. Enter at your own risk.

For those of you who have seen Civil War, or don't mind being spoiled: this is the spoiler prompt thread.

All spoilers here, any spoilery prompts on the other posts will be deleted.

All other new prompts still go to Round 3.

Rules from other rounds still apply.

Comments

(frozen comment) Re: Winter Soldier Bucky/Zemo, vengeance

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say that's a clear no. The question is if Winter Soldier is good guy for the purposes of the prompt. That's what makes option 1 definitely ok, and 2 and 3 iffy.

(frozen comment) Re: Winter Soldier Bucky/Zemo, vengeance

[(Anonymous)]

So then the question of whether Bucky is a good guy (when he isn't being actively controlled by a malicious entity or latent programming) isn't as clear-cut? Is that what trashmod is saying? I think the idea of Bucky doing something like making another Winter Soldier should be on the same level as Steve making one. Either both are against the rules, or neither are.

(frozen comment) Re: Winter Soldier Bucky/Zemo, vengeance

[(Anonymous)]

Again, not mod, but this is my opinion.

100% Bucky doing it is the same as Steve doing it. Somewhere in between WS and Bucky is iffy. To me, options 2 and 3 are unacceptable, but I am not the mod and it is up to him/her.

(frozen comment) Re: Winter Soldier Bucky/Zemo, vengeance

[(Anonymous)]

As interesting as this conversation is, could ya'll move this to the Questions post and talk to the mod there? This is important to the entire meme, not just this one prompt.

(frozen comment) Re: Winter Soldier Bucky/Zemo, vengeance

[trashmod]

So then the question of whether Bucky is a good guy isn't as clear-cut? Is that what trashmod is saying?

What trashmod is saying is please resist the temptation to police what you think the exact boundary of the rule should be, because it's more like a guideline anyway--a very loose guideline in the wake of Civil War. It is definitely not a trashmeme philosophical mission statement to be mined for implications about the characters' moral purity, how dark is too dark or too OOC, or in the case of unstable/ambiguous/dark-past figures like the Winter Soldier and Natasha, how much free will is too much free will to get a free-for-all trash pass.

The stupid thing emerged as a crude but convenient line in the sand in the early days of hashing out what flavors of dirtybadwrong trashmeme was geared towards. The meme has undergone plenty of other topic drifts since then; if the rule can't be maintained post-CW without requiring endless hair-splitting over how much revenge is too much revenge, I'd sooner ditch it altogether.