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Is Maximoff-and-Hydra related trash considered relevant to the meme? From what we've seen so far, it seems like they're undergoing pretty similar treatment to what Bucky went through, and they were in the thing at the end of CATWS...

Maybe ask the trashmod on the admin ask post? They're the one who has the final say.

Personally, I'd really prefer to wait until after Age of Ultron comes out for those characters, since we don't know how the MCU is going to handle them. We only have one very short scene and a trailer to go on.

Seconded. I'd prefer to wait until we actually know the characters before trashing them. Otherwise, what we'll get is just generic weepy rapebait porn, and that's not what I'm here for.

Thirded. We could be dealing with another Mandarin fakeout, where the Maximoffs haven't been imprisoned by HYDRA at all.

I thought it was already canon that they havent been imprisoned. The actors both said the twins volunteered at sdcc (which is juts sooooo problematic idek where to start) but basically Im pretty sure they weren imprisoned in aou

They're in cells at a HYDRA facility in the teaser. As that's the only MCU canon we've got to work with until AoU is released - they're imprisoned by HYDRA.

It sounds like semantics but imprisonment doesn't have to be forcible. Individuals can have themselves committed to a secure hospital for treatment of a variety of mental and physical disorders, for example. Therefore I really hope what you find sooooo problematic is the possibility of HYDRA's involvement and not that anyone would volunteer for treatment in a secure facility if they were scared they might hurt themselves or other people.

Likewise, Steve volunteered for the super-soldier program. So, until AoU is released, no one can say conclusively if the MCU!Maximoffs were born super-powered or consented to be engineered that way. Not even the actors can say that as they haven't seen a theatrical cut of the film yet.

In conclusion, I'm so on-board with waiting. It'd be really, really good to wait. May isn't that far away. Let's wait.

I'm the one who said its problematic that the volunteered and I just wanted to add that I have no problem with them not wanting to hurt people what I find problematic is the fact that they made two characters who are Jewish/Romani (and also children of hoocaust survivors) in the comics volunteer to essentially be experimented on by neo nazis which just makes me super uncomfortable

The MCU and the comics are different universes. We don't know anything about Wanda and Pietro in the MCU yet.

Yeah but that's just the thing. They whitewashed Jewish/Romani heroes and made them into ~troubled~ neo nazi youth who volunteer for hydra experiments we know that much and that just makes me super uncomfortable. But hey whatever maybe AOU won't be as ://// as it seems rn we'll just see I don't want a long discussion that's not what the dumpster is here for

Let's wait until AoU.

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