Chatter post

[trashmod]

For all your discussion needs.

Ground rules:
- Try to keep it loosely trash party related, or at least Cap fandom related.
- Disagreement is fine, nastiness is not.
- Being offended is not carte blanche for nastiness.
- Trashmeme ground rules apply. Read at your own risk, no romanticizing your noncon garbage, no wank about the moral acceptability of noncon kink.
- Body shots, sniper shots, and tetanus shots are all available at the open bar. Party like it's 2014, kids.

Comments

Re: Rumlow

[(Anonymous)]

I think maybe it depends? For me personally, sometimes the reader's meta knowledge of the situation adds an extra layer of trash. Like if from Bucky's perspective, Rumlow is "nice" because oh gee, he didn't beat the tar out of him today! :D, that is its own level of psychological horror. Then again, I also take responsibility for writing some of this. (I'm the person doing the crate training thing.) If that fill is OT to the mods, I apologize and I'll stop writing it.

What? NO!

[(Anonymous)]

DO NOT STOP WRITING THE CRATE TRAINING FIC. PLEASE.

Re: What? NO!

[(Anonymous)]

Ah sorry I didn't mean to sound dramatic! I just wanted to make sure I was playing by the rules (but trashmod says it's cool, so onward and downward).

Re: Rumlow

[trashmod]

Are you kidding? Your Rumlow in that fill is amazing so far.

As for the original question, "not as much of an asshole as he could've been" Rumlow is fine on the trashmeme as long as that's not being used to give him a free pass on his involvement in Hydra and the abuse of the Winter Soldier.

Re: Rumlow

[(Anonymous)]

Oh hey no don't stop, that one is AWESOME, and the thing is your Rumlow recognises that it's fucked up but carries on being complicit anyway.

Re: Rumlow

[(Anonymous)]

I just discovered that crate training fic today and god it is giving me LIFE. I think the characterization has been totally appropriate so far, no worries. Bless you for the glorious trash, anon!

Re: Rumlow

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. I don't even find superbad!Rumlow or superbad!anyone all that trashy for my tastes to be honest. That extra layer is what gives me life, to the point where sometimes I'm right there, reading, and wishing for them to, like, make out sweetly in front of a fireplace with all that moral baggage and then I'm like, WHAT HAVE I BECOME.

B&W can be fun, but it risks being always the same level of fun, while morally ambiguous characters give life to any kind of reading.

AND BTW, your Rumlow and the rookies give me life in that fic, because Rumlow is exactly like I imagine him to be: professional and efficient, and never pushing too much, but at the same time he clearly is part of something that is morally so wrong. In the movie I just adored Frank Grillo and the way he could look so cool and professional while staying on the 'wrong side', it's very realistic in fact.