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garbage all the way down ([personal profile] trashmod) wrote in [community profile] hydratrashmeme2014-11-15 10:27 am

Chatter post

For all your discussion needs.

Ground rules:
- Try to keep it loosely trash party related, or at least Cap fandom related.
- Disagreement is fine, nastiness is not.
- Being offended is not carte blanche for nastiness.
- Trashmeme ground rules apply. Read at your own risk, no romanticizing your noncon garbage, no wank about the moral acceptability of noncon kink.
- Body shots, sniper shots, and tetanus shots are all available at the open bar. Party like it's 2014, kids.

Re: Tumblr Drama - Round 2

(Anonymous) 2015-03-23 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, SERIOUSLY. Let me tell you, I've gravitated toward this kind of fic my entire fandom career, whether we were calling it darkfic, whump, or trash. And until I found the HTP, it was like walking through a minefield to try to find fic catering to my tastes that didn't seriously, seriously skeeve me out. I don't have triggers, but nevertheless I am extremely disturbed by rape-as-romance and every other non-con fic trope that handwaves consent. Acknowledging a) the importance of consent and b) the consequences of ignoring consent is crucial to me in every form of fiction. I get that stories where the rapist and the victim have a happily ever after are some people's thing and I don't care if it's yours, but for me personally it's a no-go zone. And the HTP is the first fandom space I've found where treating that as a no-go zone is the rule of law.

Re: Tumblr Drama - Round 2

(Anonymous) 2015-03-23 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
YES THIS

Re: Tumblr Drama - Round 2

(Anonymous) 2015-03-24 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG the Hary Potter fandom Quite a bit that was with underage characters. I'm not complaining or judging them, it's just evidence that HTP style fic is nothing new and plenty of older fandoms were just as full of the same type of stories.

Or, or Tony!whump. Ever look at Avengerkink? It's a super busy meme, new prompts almost every day, adding up to hundreds of pages of prompts, and half those prompts involve Tony getting raped somehow. I rarely see anyone truly complaining about it and the people who write it never get targeted.

But then, neither of those situations involve fans openly admitting they're into the genre of rapefic,then coming together as a group and naming themselves.

Because you can get away with whatever you want as long as you don't name it for what it is.

Re: Tumblr Drama - Round 2

(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS. i was recently checking out avengerkink & practically every other prompt features (as you say) "non-con fic trope(s) that handwave(s) consent" or otherwise have some really fucked up power dynamics & consent practices without acknowledging ANY of it & it really really bothered me. and no one bats an eye, lmao.