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For all your discussion needs.

Ground rules:
- Try to keep it loosely trash party related, or at least Cap fandom related.
- Disagreement is fine, nastiness is not.
- Being offended is not carte blanche for nastiness.
- Trashmeme ground rules apply. Read at your own risk, no romanticizing your noncon garbage, no wank about the moral acceptability of noncon kink.
- Body shots, sniper shots, and tetanus shots are all available at the open bar. Party like it's 2014, kids.

Comments

Re: No-go Kinks that go together?

[(Anonymous)]

Have you guys noticed every time Bucky is nicknamed "Winter", there is disgusting noncon-romantic-dinner-for-two? Usually HYDRA Husbands fics with "Winter" as their rape baby, and the author never seems to realize adorable infantilized "Winter" is an unwilling victim because "look, his daddies love him!" I love HYDRA Husbands, I love fucked-up Rumlow/Bucky, I love deliberately infantilized Bucky, but I hate Winter the Rape Baby.

As for A/B/O, I like the dominance and knotting, but I really hate that omegas turn into 50s housewives the moment they're knocked up, and they're always knocked up first go and happy about it. I've read fics with omega!Rumlow who stayed home cooking (!!!!) while alpha!Steve and Bucky were away on missions. Brock "Crossbones" Rumlow in an apron. What.

Re: No-go Kinks that go together?

[(Anonymous)]

I get so creeped out by "consensual" Winterbones where the author doesn't seem to realize that Bucky simply cannot consent as the Winter Soldier (probably at all, but certainly not to anyone with any smidgen of authority over him). I've read fic where, for example, Rumlow is deliberately contrasted with other Hydra agents who rape Bucky brutally and sadistically, you know, ~really rape him, whereas Rumlow, who is KIND!, is apparently having sweet, healing, consensual sex with the brainwashed traumatized rape slave. Sure. That's great.

Re: No-go Kinks that go together?

[(Anonymous)]

Re "Winter": Sooo true.

Although when you think about it it's not a surprising correlation. The very act of using "Winter" as a name is treating "The Winter Soldier" as an autonomous, self-determining person with agency, which the MCU Winter Soldier most unequivocally is not. So "Winter" treated as a named person by the author is almost always a red flag for consent issues.