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For all your discussion needs.

Ground rules:
- Try to keep it loosely trash party related, or at least Cap fandom related.
- Disagreement is fine, nastiness is not.
- Being offended is not carte blanche for nastiness.
- Trashmeme ground rules apply. Read at your own risk, no romanticizing your noncon garbage, no wank about the moral acceptability of noncon kink.
- Body shots, sniper shots, and tetanus shots are all available at the open bar. Party like it's 2014, kids.

Comments

Re: My first abusive comment! I'm so proud!

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, just two? I'm reflecting on my life and my choices now, trying to figure out what I've been doing wrong to get so much more D:

Re: My first abusive comment! I'm so proud!

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

aaaaahhhh sorry man, idk. It'd be interesting to have like, an anonymous poll of how much anon hate people in the dumpster have gotten. I feel like I get mostly unfollows more than nasty comments, but I have no guesses at why anons go into some in boxes but not others.

Re: My first abusive comment! I'm so proud!

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly? If I had to guess, I'd put my money on extended social circle and perceived alignment with fandom-SJ norms as the two biggest causal factors. Neither of which have anything to do with doing anything wrong.

By which I mean: If you end up in a friend group with a tendency towards self-policing and shaming "problematic" fiction, or even if they're friends-of-friends (or friends of people who regularly reblog from you), your chances of finding yourself in the crosshairs increase dramatically. If they're under the impression that you're "one of them" or "one of the good ones," the nastiness and persistence of the attacks increase dramatically, for multiple reasons. Perceived betrayal is one; I've seen it expressed over and over in some of the uglier, more personal HTP wank. Another, which can apply even without any prior impressions, is that it's more satisfying to police people who care about toeing the right SJ lines, no matter whether the policing party is genuinely out to persuade or is just a bully trying to kick someone where they're sensitive.

The other thing is turf wars. The hysterical tantrum of backlash that one Ward fic got was AoS fandom turf war all over. A lot of the purity-policing wank in other fandoms has been thinly veiled ship wank or character assassination on rival fanartists. Even the run-of-the-mill bullying often boils down to a turf war within a social group, as people jockey for position as the most loudly and publicly righteous, accuse rivals of not being quick enough to condemn whoever's fallen off the pedestal into pariah-land this week, and compete at smacking some designated Great Satan around like a piñata. Stray into the territory and you risk accidentally becoming part of the game.

(I've been certain cliques' Great Satan in previous fandoms. It's kind of fun. People who've written you off as a lost cause are less likely to insult you in ways that get under your skin. Also way more likely to produce the kinds of floridly vile verbal abuse that serve as a gold-plated character reference when they're from horrid shitheels pitching a tantrum at being stood up to.)

tl;dr: it's probably not anything you've been doing. Or if it is, it's not anything you've been doing wrong. Most likely it's a byproduct of whatever your corner of the fandom social landscape happens to be.


- a fairly infamous HTP author, multi-fandom wank veteran, and receiver of a grand total of zero HTP-based rude anons/fic comments (I was expecting lots! I'd take some of yours off your hands if I could)