Chatter post

[trashmod]

For all your discussion needs.

Ground rules:
- Try to keep it loosely trash party related, or at least Cap fandom related.
- Disagreement is fine, nastiness is not.
- Being offended is not carte blanche for nastiness.
- Trashmeme ground rules apply. Read at your own risk, no romanticizing your noncon garbage, no wank about the moral acceptability of noncon kink.
- Body shots, sniper shots, and tetanus shots are all available at the open bar. Party like it's 2014, kids.

Comments

Re: Bring out your wank *clangs bell*

[(Anonymous)]

LOL
Like, I disagree with people saying we need to change the kinds of prompt we accept or the dumpster will die out, because it's been doing okay even though TWS came out four years ago. But it also confuses me how people are suddenly so adamant about there absolutely needing to be noncon, whereas in the past prompts without it were accepted and filled just fine on the premise they had gore, or dehumanization, or more violence than canon.

Re: Bring out your wank *clangs bell*

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think anyone wanted anything changed in terms of the rules, just more flexibility in how they were interpreted. Things seem to have become more literal lately than they were.

Re: Bring out your wank *clangs bell*

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. Specially because, like someone mentioned on the other post, people might have different interpretations of trash. Like, the prompt (don't know where the author took the fic cuz I haven't read it yet) where Steve is being milked for his semen to make more serum, for me, while it is definitely sexual and there's humiliation and pain involved, is not necessarily trashy as the scientists were not doing it for evil reasons, but for actual science. It's different from say, HYDRA milking Bucky's prostate by the way of Rumlow's dick.

Re: Bring out your wank *clangs bell*

[(Anonymous)]

True. Also, there's a difference between something being a literal sexual situation, and something that is not inherently sexual in itself, but the reader/writer finds it sexual. For example, bed wetting, vomiting or torture are not inherently sexual activities. However, certain people do find arousal/pleasure/sexual enjoyment in reading/writing about those things, because to them they are sexy. Not sure if I'm explaining this clearly, but for example. A prompt/fill might focus on a character being incontinent as a result of torture. Which on its own isn't a sexual thing. However, to people who view (fictional or not) dehumanization, abuse, desperation etc it will be arousing/sexy.
tl;dr we shouldn't focus explicitly on whether the content involves graphic descriptions of sex on not, provided as it fits with the assignment (HYDRA, Winter Soldier, graphic, distressing content that wouldnt be allowed on other memes) and HAS THE POTENTIAL to be seen as sexual by prompters/writers/readers

Re: Bring out your wank *clangs bell*

[(Anonymous)]

HYDRA, Winter Soldier, graphic, distressing content that wouldnt be allowed on other memes

That has always been my gauge to post here. Disturbing shit that wouldn't be allowed/welcomed elsewhere being done to CA:TWS characters.

Re: Bring out your wank *clangs bell*

[(Anonymous)]

thought so too, but then my prompt got frozen (as if bucky being force fed his own arm isnt distressing and dark enough) and it all got rly confusing and rly angry real quick

Re: Bring out your wank *clangs bell*

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say "has the potential to be seen as sexual" isn't the best metric, because, well, *anything* could be seen as sexual by someone somewhere. But "HYDRA, Winter Soldier, graphic, distressing content that wouldn't be allowed on other memes" perfectly sums up how I and others here have interpreted "dirtybadwrong". Things that no one in their right mind would wish upon themselves or anyone else, sexual or otherwise.

Re: Bring out your wank *clangs bell*

[(Anonymous)]

yeee, maybe i didnt word that very well, but i didnt mean to suggest 'has potential to be sexual' as the metric. what i meant was that if it is undeniably HYDRA, winter soldier, graphic distressing content AND is either sexual OR has the potential to be seen as sexual by the audience, even if the actions described inherently arent, then it should belong