hydratrashmeme | Dumpster #5: We didn't start the trashfire

Dumpster #5: We didn't start the trashfire

Welcome to the latest, greatest, scummiest iteration of

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Rules in brief: Don't be a jerk except to fictional characters. Warn if you want, but read at your own risk, because this is emphatically not a safe space. Link your fills on the fill post. Unprompted fills: make a prompt or a header comment and reply to it with the full text. Continuations of fills from earlier rounds: just make sure you link in both places.

What's on-topic: Filthy and perverted twists on all the quality whump served up by Cap: Winter Soldier. Noncon, aftermath, uncomfortably sexualized violence, mind control, inappropriate uses of Bucky Barnes' metal arm, bad guys doing dirtybadwrong things to your faves.
What's off-topic: a/b/o, D/s-verse, soulbonds, mundane AUs, shippy/romanticized noncon, MCU heroes repurposed into OOC or edgydark delivery vehicles for your fave's suffering. If you've got a prompt for one of those burning a hole in your brain, head on over to

mcu_trash.

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It seems like Bucky has all the fun with dogs. Why doesn't Hydra show Steve how nice it is being their good little pup?

If the head of Hydra decides he’s gonna fuck you, you can’t exactly say no. Rumlow is a good soldier, knows how to follow orders, but it doesn’t mean he’s into whatever kinky shit Pierce puts him through. He’s actually very repulsed by everything that’s happening, not to mention Pierce himself. Unfortunately for Pierce, he’s not young anymore, and during a particularly exciting act, he has a heart attack.

What Rumlow decides to do about it is up to the filler.

As for kinks, I’m ok with everything but sounding and scat.

(OP) Fuck, this is so good!!! I love the suspense and the slow buildup of dread. Bucky's instinctual panic, his heartbreaking response to a nice hot shower, the false sense of safety, the mind games, the fact that all of this has happened before, the fact that this has happened before and Rumlow needs to be supervised - it's all killing me and I love it.

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Not consciously, but glad to be in good company!

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Oh good, I was hoping you wouldn't mind that the fill messes with the prompt's backstory a little. :) With a premise that ties so well into Steve's history of getting beat up in fights he can't win, it was hard to resist making it Hodge.

And very glad Steve's inner monologue was what you wanted. He's trying (and failing) so hard to be reasonable about this! But yes, his relationship to his body was complicated to start with, and then throw in past rape that hit him right in the masculinity and self-worth issues, and, well...

OMG it's like if the Coen Brothers did a porno. I'm cracking up.

I'm getting Gerald's Game vibes.

Everything about this is brilliant.

AA

So glad you are liking it! Thank you for the nice comment (and everyone else who commented... I don’t want to clog up the flat view by replying too much but I appreciate it)

Your trash is not my trash but what kind of gay history are you reading

gfdsasdfgh Steve would hate it. He'd be so hard to break, like really truly mold into their dog, it's take so long to break him down bit by bit so he'd learn his leash manners and fetch and how to eat and piss and walk like a dog. He'd do it, but stoically as he can but the first time they let a dog fuck him he;d cry so much. What if they gave him something to make sure he'd like it, but don't tell him and he's just horrified.

A while ago I read the headcanon that the reason why there's a gun on the table on the kitchen scene in TWS is because the Winter Soldier is supposed to arm any handlers who are not armed in his presence, should they wish to kill him.

So let's trashify it.

A handler gets off on the power it gives them (Rollins, maybe? I love Rollins being weird, but anyone is fine, specially a woman handler, we need more women trash here). So they make the Soldier come up with elaborate scenarios where the handler could kill him while they masturbate. The Soldier has a lot of experience killing people + there's the headcanon that Bucky was always a good storyteller, so he can make his descriptions extra vivid.

+The gorier and more realistic the better for the Handler, so the Soldier escalates on the horror, part to make it end faster, but also he takes a sort of pride in acomplishing a mission (plus, he isn't being touched, so it's better than the usual).
+Somewhat of a (possibly unconscious) suicide ideation on the Soldier's part.

The thought of Rumlow handcuffed half naked to a bed with a dead Pierce in the room and nobody for miles made me cackle evilly.

Oof that last bonus...

I love all of this, but that last + went right for my heart.

Not OP, but I'll vouch for them. Old timey anti-homosexuality conspiracy theories were MESSED UP. I'm no expert, but if you ever read The Picture of Dorian Gray it strongly alludes to homosexuality being considered a contagious perversion. And Oscar Wilde was famously gay!
I can definitely see these superstitions colliding with HTP trauma in a perfect storm of self-hatred.

NA Yeah, mainstream society had some deeply fucked up ideas about homosexuality at the time. This sounds perfectly in line with some of the things people actually believed and used to justify their oppression of us.

Still not sure abt your gay history. New York in particular was famous for being relatively (I mean yeah there were police raids etc) for gay ppl, and it was the first state to reduce criminal status of homosexuality from crime to misdemeanor (sometime in the late 40s?). Also Dorian Gray and Oscar Wilde are a good 50 years before the era the prompt is looking at.

I'm not the OP, so don't @ me about their gay history. New York being "relatively" okay for gay people at the time doesn't really mean it was completely free from other horrific attitudes of its time. You STILL get people TODAY who thinks stuff like that and tells their gay kids about it. It's not a dead attitude now and it wasn't then. Which sucks, it's terrible, but doesn't mean you can't write about it.

Yeah, the idea that gay couples have a "man" and a "woman" is still somewhat common nowadays. As is the idea that letting your kids see gay couples will make them gay, and the idea that it's not gay if you're the one doing the fucking. So the prompt doesn't seem so farfetched to me. And anyway, it's not like we strive for realism what with the amount of things we usually imagine being shoved up Bucky's ass.

Well now I just want a Chuck Tingle style "Violently pounded in the ass by society's outdated views of same-sex relationships" fic.

Uhhh actual educational clips used in the 1950s, and a lot of articles from the 50s, which is a good 10 years AFTER that. Next you will want to say that the Nazi party never had US supporters or Nazi rallies... NYC wasn't safe for gay kids, or Jewish kids outside of specific small neighborhoods in the 20s-30s when they were being raised there.

And I myself (many decades later) was raised being told by my well meaning mother and grandmother both, that my great uncle was really my great aunt, because he liked to kiss other men, "but not in a predatory way, he just is more woman inside than man".

He wasn't trans. He was Homo.
And not effeminate at all, besides always being supportive and willing to listen.

But in their minds, he was womanly, so he wasn't a "predatory pervert" he was a "poor soul, in the wrong body"...

See also https://youtu.be/MmqNiFJyI28

For a 1961s educational video made for mandatory viewing, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_Beware has all of this and more. 20+ years later.

See The Birdcage, made in the 90s, where the "wife" and "husband" gay roles are normalized. In the 1990s.

Your history is evidently not well anchored in US history, either.

Also, it's the HTP meme... even if I was making all this shit up and not referring to the actual time period appropriate thought processes likely encouraged by the time... your kink is not my kink means don't post trying to derail a prompt. Please and thankyou.

OP would read it and giggle. If you write it there is some interesting concepts from the 1910s and 20s that literally likened receptive homosexuality to a mental inversion. Inverts, quite literally it was arguing gay bottoms were born with feminized minds and not responsible for their sickness.

The movement was trying to help, in its own way.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_inversion_(sexology)
Note the 1928 book that uses that to identify the lesbian character. Yep.

Bucky tried to escape Hydra sometimes in the 90, Pierce isn't to happy but he has a solution.
when Bucky got recaptured they strap him down in the chair and Pierce has him castrated.
+Pierce praising the asset: "you want to be a good boy right? it will be so much easier being good without those, you don't need them anyway, you're going to be so beautiful when it's done", "you've been doing so good" after the whole procedure is over, wiping away the tears from his cheeks
++Pierce holding the assets cock out of the way while the docotors do their work, commenting everything that is done to Bucky, pointing out the next steps and so on
+++Bucky begging for them not to do it, to stop, and when it doesn't work at least to give him the biteguard but no such luck

It's almost as if some people paid attention to the horrifying parts of our history.

OP offers this anon a cookie, and wants to thank all the other anons for helping.
It seriously is soothing to have others actually know their gay history unlike the one anon(2?) who had fully bought into the revisionist propaganda that "gays were welcomed" in NYC. Or whatever bullshit they've been chugging hand over fist.

If said person(s) bothered to read between the lines of Baldwin, a black author and poet who found the US too homophobic and racist and fled to Paris, http://challengingmalesupremacy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Here-be-Dragons-James-Baldwin.pdf they might find the predatory gay trope still lingers. Or the idea of boy/Popa and feminizing of his own person for being receptive.

How much faggot is used by everyone from the top to the bottom. Or any of a dozen other authors that are the queer contemporaries of our pre-war super soldiers.

I mean, we can do this all day, how even in the heart of the most liberal and bohemian circles, the ideas above were common, and how something had to have happened with his mother to "make him gay" from trauma.

How shocked everyone was that he bucked the common dialog of being estranged from and disliking their mothers.

Next time you ask so condescendingly what gay histories I read... try reading a few from the period. Try asking those that lived in that time. Sure they might have been liberal, or revised their memories... but ask them about the dangers. Ask a gay great uncle who lived in the city in the 50s. Ask and read and learn more than the propaganda of how the "gays didn't really have it that bad".

Because speaking of toxic, whitewashing the past makes it more likely to repeat itself.

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Dumpster #5: We didn't start the trashfire

Bestiality/puppy play with Steve

Pierce/Rumlow, heart attack during rape

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