hydratrashmeme | Dumpster #5: We didn't start the trashfire

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Rules in brief: Don't be a jerk except to fictional characters. Warn if you want, but read at your own risk, because this is emphatically not a safe space. Link your fills on the fill post. Unprompted fills: make a prompt or a header comment and reply to it with the full text. Continuations of fills from earlier rounds: just make sure you link in both places.

What's on-topic: Filthy and perverted twists on all the quality whump served up by Cap: Winter Soldier. Noncon, aftermath, uncomfortably sexualized violence, mind control, inappropriate uses of Bucky Barnes' metal arm, bad guys doing dirtybadwrong things to your faves.
What's off-topic: a/b/o, D/s-verse, soulbonds, mundane AUs, shippy/romanticized noncon, MCU heroes repurposed into OOC or edgydark delivery vehicles for your fave's suffering. If you've got a prompt for one of those burning a hole in your brain, head on over to

mcu_trash.

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Please let this have Bucky rape her thinking that is normal behavior. Please? Hnnnng.
Especially if Steve says something about giving her to Bucky if she insists on being such a slutty whore, or the like. Hnnnng.

please please please :) :) :)

Uhhh, isn’t this edging into dark!good guys territory?

I’m guessing it depends on how much Bucky knows where/who he is and is still under his programming?

If he’s supposed to be recovered or mostly recovered here and still thinks rape is groovy under the right circumstances then... yeah. That’s a big no from me.

(OP/A!A) Please prioritize your own comfort and enjoyment! If this snippet wasn’t fun to read, there’s of course no need to follow the story any further—and here’s hoping the next fill is more to your taste! Though I’m generally a fan of suspense, and of the meme as a choose-not-to-warn space, in this instance I don’t think it’s giving away much to say that yes, if I continue this fic it will include scenes of Bucky abusing Sharon. Whether this comes off as OOC nonsense or a hideously understandable response to the particulars of Bucky’s own profound sexual trauma will depend on whether I do a good job. But I’m fairly confident that the moderator isn’t going to impose a prior restraint—that is, I don’t think the story will be deleted or frozen because I might turn out to be a lousy writer. That being the case, please look after yourself and read responsibly!

Hell yes.
It's obvious in this that Bucky may "seem" okay, but, like, he has a fundamental break in understanding.
We had a fill that everyone lauded a while back that had Bucky raping Steve in his sleep as a way to help him have no pain during sex... like, ignore the double standards trolls.
You are doing fantastic so far, and I trust you to keep selling me this trash as trash.

I think ...and because it was good when the person suffering wasn't him and ...guards his fuck toy jealously, a prerogative of rank... make it pretty clear that Bucky is not anywhere near okay. How much anyone realizes this, we don’t know yet, but the fill is great so far.

Tbh, I’m potentially more disturbed by Steve in this fic. Does he know how much Bucky can hear? That doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the fic, no matter the explanation. Maybe listening to the other is something from way back when. Maybe he doesn’t know about any of Bucky’s trash past. Maybe Steve doesn’t know Bucky can hear through the wall.

I want to find out, so I hope there will be more.

(A!A) Maybe listening to the other is something from way back when. Oh my gosh, anon, I love this idea. Everything would be so much more twisted, if Steve knew Bucky could hear them—if Steve were deliberately including Bucky in their play. As this is the trash meme, Steve couldn't be doing it nonconsensually, and thus he'd have to believe that Bucky's recovery is light-years more advanced than it actually is and that he, Bucky, and Sharon are in a consensual relationship. That is way more insidiously intricate than what's going on here, which is that Steve has no idea Bucky hear them through the wall and would be mortified to learn that Bucky has any insight into his sex life whatsoever.

I assume it was just an oversight but it is kind of weird that nothing in this comment mentions *Sharon’s* thoughts or consent on having someone listening in on their kinky sex.

The question was literally about Steve here. Does he know how much Bucky can hear? AA was answering the question.

Also the comment did mention Sharon's consent. "he'd have to believe that...he, Bucky, and Sharon are in a consensual relationship"

(SA) Thanks for clearing that up.

Regarding Sharon, I didn’t ask about her because I didn’t find her behavior potentially disturbing. Unlike, for example, Steve knowing Bucky might be able to hear them and not addressing it with either of them.

I asked about Steve because of all the fic I’ve read in which Steve listened to Bucky with girls he brought home or they listened to each other jerk off. In most of those fics, they never actually talked about it, they just either suspected or fantasized. Usually anyone they brought home for sex had no idea more than that they needed to be quiet because of a sleeping roommate.

So, if Steve didn’t know about Bucky’s trash past and this was a habit thoughtlessly but not maliciously brought into the present, I could see it happening. Steve could rationalize that he doesn’t really know how enhanced Bucky’s hearing is, given his serum wasn’t the same as Steve’s. Maybe Sharon has a streak of exhibitionisn or exhibitionist fantasies and he doesn’t think she’d mind. All of which would be fucked up, but not evil.

Ok, so Steve not taking Bucky’s past into account before letting him hear sex is disturbing, but deliberately having his roommate hear something that a woman assumes is private is “fucked up but not evil.” Because Bucky’s feelings are important and valid, but Sharon and all the other women’s feelings are ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(da) That's an almost comically ungenerous reading of the previous comment.

I meant that’s the sort of thing I’ve seen Steve rationalize or be thoughtless about in other fics, so it seemed like the sort of thing that wouldn’t cross automatically the line to evil!Steve. It would absolutely be wrong and Sharon should drop him like a hot coal if he’s knowingly involving anyone without her knowledge. It was Steve potentially knowing and not doing anything about it that bothered me more than Bucky hearing. My questions were more about if Steve was being creepywrong than if he was protecting Bucky. I mean, OP had already said Sharon was the one in danger here. Also, I imagine Steve could only be that thoughtless toward both Sharon and Bucky if he had no idea about Bucky’s trash past. I mean, if he knew the details readers know Bucky has been thinking about and how he has been using them as jerk-off material, he’d probably consider whether Bucky might be a threat to Sharon.

I seriously doubt either the prompt or the fill would look like what we have, if Steve already had that information. It would be more like “Steve knows Bucky’s trash past has warped his understanding of relationships. Now Steve has to prevent Bucky from misinterpreting his consensually kinky relationship with Sharon before Sharon gets hurt.”

OP has already responded that Steve doesn’t know Bucky is listening, so this is all moot speculation anyway. I apparently expressed myself badly and I am sorry.

There's no need to apologize, anon. The Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice are out in force today.

SA

Ok I’m sorry too, I’m probably a bit oversensitive because of too much exposure to the “female character as mindless robot who provides character development for the male characters with the *real* feelings” trope in pop culture, and misread what you meant. Back to the trash.

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