Dumpster #4: I Don't See How That's a Party

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Okay, kids, you know the drill. Don't be a jerk except to fictional characters. Warn if you want, but read at your own risk, because hydratrashmeme is about as far from a safe space as you can get. Garbage we like: noncon, whump, aftermath, violence, mind control, inappropriate uses of Bucky Barnes' metal arm, bad guys doing dirtybadwrong things to your faves. Garbage you should find a different trashcan for: a/b/o, D/s-verse, soulbonds, mundane AUs, OOC evil!good guys doing dirtybadwrong things to your faves, rotting leftovers dressed up as a romantic gourmet meal. Nothing wrong with 'em, but this isn't the crowd you should be pitching to if you're trying to sell Brock Rumlow as anything but a human dumpster fire.

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Round 4 is closed; comments and fills in existing threads are still welcome, but all new prompts go to Round 5.

Comments

(frozen comment) the serum causes semen overproduction

[(Anonymous)]

So another twist on the milking concept: since the serum makes Steve's body the pinnacle of physical perfection, it's actually primed for reproduction. Lots of it, more than is socially acceptable/possible. So Steve either has to jerk himself off several times a day (I'm thinking every 3-4 hours when waking plus the inconvenience of nocturnal emissions) oooooooor he needs to be milked dry on a daily basis. Since Steve has his actual missions during the war, he has to choose between these 2 humiliating options. And HYDRA scientists and moles want access to this plentiful amount of genetic material too...

(frozen comment) Re: the serum causes semen overproduction

[(Anonymous)]

Nice!
Also, does Steve have consensual sexytimes with anyone in this 'verse? Or does he maybe end up captured and classic trash happens? Because I'm always a sucker for the Steve/bodyshaming topic, and I imaginge him being super insecure about THAT HUGE LOAD he's blowing every time he cums.
(Just saying. Feel free to ignore <3)

Trash aftermath boners, how embarrassing

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a die-hard sucker for the victim getting unwanted boners during trash treatment and being shamed for it, but let's take this for a spin:

The Winter Soldier is regularly subjected to trash parties, but even though he's touch starved and all, it's too painful/stressful for his body to react. Afterwards, though! They send somebody to clean him up -- it feels really nice, warm water, nice touches that don't hurt! Maybe medical checkup, or getting patched up. Someone touching all the oversensitive spots, but so gently!

Basically I want the Winter Soldier's body helplessly overreacting to post trash fix up. Maybe it even has a touch of victim blaming, as in, "Look at that, maybe he liked it after all."

I'd really love him to be self aware/brainfucked enough to be ashamed, please!

Re: Trash aftermath boners, how embarrassing

[(Anonymous)]

Ooh, seconded!!

(frozen comment) Steve's biological urge to pass on his genetic material

[(Anonymous)]

So I read a prompt about Steve being the ultimate human male specimen, and thus very fertile, and it makes so much sense. His body is absolutely primed for reproduction. So not only is he probably horny all the time, I bet it altered his desires a little as well and now all he can think about is impregnating a woman.

He probably jerks off to the thought of filling up a woman, having her carry his offspring, protecting her like an alpha male should. Basically he's back to his primal instincts. Maybe he's sleeping with someone and they find out what he fantasised about somehow? Or they roleplay? Or maybe he actually attempts to get someone pregnant (consensually, or not - maybe he's subconsciously thinking at the back of his head "just a little harder and the condom would break and then my seed would be inside her" but not realising at all that that's what he's doing cause Steve would never do that on purpose. It's instinctive for him now.

(frozen comment) Re: Steve's biological urge to pass on his genetic material

[(Anonymous)]

I can totally see how this would work with other things as well, like how Steve was always so small and insecure in his masculinity that now he's big he really gets off on/takes great satisfaction in being bigger and stronger than his sexual partners and feeling like a real man. Holding a woman close in his arms so he can feel like he's protecting her while he's fucking her. Being very very careful that he doesn't hurt her during sex but still being very dominant, holding her down etc. Sighing happily when she wraps her arms and legs around him

Strike love their pet

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe the strike team actually find the asset very endearing and have great affection for him. After working with him and using him for so long, and spending time with him on missions, he's like their beloved family pet.

After a mission he will sit at their feet perhaps while they throw him snacks, or lie with his head in their laps while their stroke his hair and call him a good boy. Maybe if he's done a particularly good job (or they're just in the mood) they will unzip his fly and gently and lovingly jerk him off while he rests in their arms or on their laps and make him lick his semen off their hands afterwards. Maybe this helps him relax after a mission.

If he's been a particularly good boy they might hold him close and put their cocks in his ass, grinding gently, always making sure he orgasms more than once. The asset loves this more than anything, and when he sees them unzipping their trousers he gets excited like a dog who sees his owner take out the leash. Bonus if they actually genuinely care about him in a fucked up kinda way.

Re: Strike love their pet

[(Anonymous)]

This is the best, how wonderfully evil

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

Kind of the opposite to an above prompt - Steve is deserumed, (temporarily or not, doesn't matter) and thinks "well, looks like I'm unattractive again now." But is shocked to learn that women (and men) in the future have slightly more diverse tastes and suddenly everyone wants to fuck the gorgeous little twink. Maybe he gets hit on even more than before, because he probably was a little intimidating before due to his large size and blatantly being out of everyone's league. Steve is probably stunned (and flattered) at this, but none of the avengers are surprised because let's face it, I don't believe that no one was ever interested in tiny Steve, he's the prettiest fucking thing I've ever seen, lol

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Sorry, anon, this is hydratrashmeme, not a general-purpose kinkmeme, and trash-free prompts are off-topic.

PostRecovery HTP survivor Bucky thinks Tony or Peter are being abused

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, so, HTP was a daily part of The Asset's life. He is so used to the worst of humanity he can't stop seeing it.
Up to filler if it is Peter or Tony, but after Bucky starts looking at the interactions of the other team, he starts to think someone is being abused. He knows HYDRA used trash parties to break and keep others in line, and he knows how effective it can be for keeping otherwise volatile assets in line. So he is honestly extremely worried for Tony or Peter being abused by Ross and the World Security Council.

And because he knows how horrifying and embarrassing it is for people not in the Asset mentality to have someone acknowledge the rapes and abuse, he keeps trying to ask about it obliquely and subtly. Long distance communication isn't helping matters.

Up to filler if the person Bucky thinks is a fellow survivor is- but I really want Bucky trying to be protective of what he sees as a fellow trash party favor- and creeping the everloving fuck out of the rest of the good guys as a result of miscommunications.

Re: PostRecovery HTP survivor Bucky thinks Tony or Peter are being abused

[(Anonymous)]

this KILLS me anon I LOVE u

(frozen comment) HTP!Bucky knows Tony repressed being a HTPFavor

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I am going to post a trigger warning here- I am going discuss dissociation and coping techniques. Teen Tony will be discussed in HTP settings.


Okay-

Tony is experiencing more than just the grief for his mother on watching the video. Tony is remembering the attack that he had suppressed that led up to him being home with his parents that Christmas.

Tony was in the running for being a recruit, far too tempting a mind to leave alone. But HYDRA couldn't try it's usual methods to recruit him. So they drugged him and brought him in for multiple intense weekend long Parties, as the favor. This happens a few times a month for a year, and Tony can't deal with this, beginning to dissociate at the first press of something unexpected into his palms with different textures triggering different states of susceptibility, as HYDRA uses different textures as a neutral stimulus that is paired with every new horror in the party. They don't break him or leave marks on him- but they do make him watch the other party favor get flayed open, bleeding and not screaming, because he has been ordered not to. An example of what will happen to him if he acts up while they have him in hand.

Tony gets to where, while they press rough scratchy lace fabric into his palm and whisper orders in his ear, he even participates in beating the other party favor, to not be the one beaten, to avoid the pain he sees. Mind blank of anything but compliance.

Tony can't deal with those memories and, when the parties stop after Howard dies, they all get buried in the shuffle of other large traumas. Bucky, when he says he remembers them all- means he also remembers Tony also being a party favor. Bucky doesn't blame Tony, but he knows that Tony has his own triggers- and as much as he needs to be deprogrammed, he knows Tony does too.

Bucky has to convince Steve and the others to help him get Tony into treatment, despite Tony fighting to deny anything ever happened. Tony being pissed and angry that Bucky is making him deal with and confront all the HTP memories, is a plus, but breakthroughs where he cries and is held like he never was after the parties, also are desired.

Bucky and Tony healing together, Bucky helping to lead Tony through therapy, are huge bonuses, if we can have them.

Steve or Wanda being pissed that Tony was such a hypocrite, then slowly being educated about trauma and recovery would also be fantastic to see.

(frozen comment) Re: HTP!Bucky knows Tony repressed being a HTPFavor

[(Anonymous)]

From the meme’s rules on what does and imo in this case doesn’t belong in this dumpster: appearances from other Marvel characters (fine as cameos if the main focus is on a Cap character, not fine as a backdoor for Tony Stark/Loki/Grant Ward/etc to steal the show)

Shuri sees the HTP in Bucky's memories while helping him deprogram

[(Anonymous)]

Shuri is a sweet girl, incredibly intelligent but also incredibly sheltered.

Can we please have a fic delving into her rage and horror for Bucky as he relives the HTP days while they work on deprogramming him? Can we have her absolute devastation and how it traumatizes her and makes her have nightmares and need counseling? Can you give me all the protective after effects of all that trauma, that allowed an outsider to be named the Brother of the King? Because Shuri and by extension, T'Challa can only be in awe of the strength of will Bucky has to keep himself sane after- everything HTP.

Bonus points for Bucky, despite being the actual survivor, being the most put together and offering comfort and stability to the others after Shuri (and others) see some particularly horrible HTP where ExtraExtraAwfulTM happened.

Re: Shuri sees the HTP in Bucky's memories while helping him deprogram

[(Anonymous)]

clarifying this a bit- I want Bucky dealing with his stuff in the desensitized survivor way- but having a chance to see how awful it probably actually is by the way the innocent (Shuri) and mostly innocent (T'Challa) react to his pretty much standard daily life as the Asset.

Bucky knows it's bad but can't really access the scope of it from inside looking out. He gets validation for his own anger and reactions, through seeing Shuri lose her shit completely at just a few of the various parties.

Bucky is so put together as much because he has to be for them, as he can't react to the scope of the wrongs done to him without falling apart. So having someone else fall apart for him is strangely soothing.

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To the anon or anons posting a string of off-topic prompts: please reread the rules and stop. There are a few borderline ones involving non-Cap characters that I'm leaving open because they're just barely on the relevant side of the line. But subsequent prompts in the same vein will be frozen without warning, explanation, or interpretive wiggle room.

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

Trash mod, I get your reasoning but I would argue that the prompt at the top of this page that you froze is applicable due to the humiliation aspects of it. The main thing is about Steve being so embarrassed and basically having to have sex he doesn't want because of how he is now biologically. Also partially about the army's pseudo-ownership of him, to do as they please with him. I would think this was pretty trashy given there was been very similar prompts on here that were deemed fine. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the rules, I don't mean to be confrontational, that's just my opinion.

HYDRA straps down Steve and Bucky for milking

[(Anonymous)]

STRIKE captures Captain America, and HYDRA wants to run tests on who can produce more semen: Cap or the Asset. The scientists make a big production of it, a viewing room, cameras showing multiple angles, medical equipment, state-of-the-art fucking machines, stun batons, aphrodisiacs, injections to increase production, live commentary, spectators placing bets, auctioning off the samples to various entities, you name it. HYDRA straps Steve and Bucky down to drain their balls dry. They tag team until one of them can't ejaculate anymore. STRIKE gets to have their way with the loser.

Bucky doesn't do that anymore- Bucky tries to do like Sam - but has too many flashbacks.

[(Anonymous)]

Bucky has a million and one issues after all the HTP and other effects of 70+ years as a POW. He doesn't want to kill or hurt people anymore.

He thinks therapy is amazing and while Sam may be an ass sometimes, he has a lot of respect for him working to give back, give understanding and a safe space for people to talk about things done to them.

Bucky tries to work as a councilor with human trafficking victims, as he can uniquely understand the powerlessness they had. However as he tries to help them, he keeps having more and more flashbacks, a girl's story here has him remembering the taste of torn satin panties as he is fisted, the choked distant way another girl talks about wanting short hair reminds him about the time he was swung around like a doll by his hair, tied to a wench by it and beaten as the wind up of the end of a party.

Their stories are horrifying and awful and he tries to focus on them, to help them, but the more he hears- the more fresh hell is unearthed from his own memory. He wants to help- but he keeps coming back to the same thought- they are just human, and their stories can't be mine- because a human couldn't survive the parties I was the entertainment for.

Give me Bucky trying to push through ever increasing disassociation because he wants to help, to not be broken, and him eventually having to be saved from himself by Sam or his therapist or someone.

Re: Bucky doesn't do that anymore- Bucky tries to do like Sam - but has too many flashbacks.

[(Anonymous)]

Love this

A lack of pain and fear-Wakanda saves Bucky-(White Dominated spaces=Bad)

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, so Bucky wins the longest lasting chewtoy to ever exist award. All decent human beings on knowing the full extent of what was done to him should feel empathy for him, but the first time he has ever experienced that basic bar of human decency and empathy from most people he met, was Wakanda.

HYDRA is a white dominated space. SHIELD is a white dominated space. Red Room was definitely a white dominated space. All the time Bucky was on the run, he was in white dominated spaces, experiencing constant flashbacks and intense hyperawareness at all times.

In Wakanda, he has treatment and kindness on all sides. He has support and multiple therapists. He has people as different ideologically, socially, and yes, visually, from HYDRA as it is possible to be. Their clothes are vibrant and while a few non-whites may have worked for HYDRA they were few and far between- and certainly never entrusted with the Asset. Bucky recovers and is deprogrammed, excited by how he feels so incredibly safe, all the time now.

Then he enters a room with Steve and the others on team cap and his heart is racing, he becomes hyper aware and even Steve- big puppydog Steve with his too gentle eyes, makes Bucky flash back to the taste of stale semen and blood, the scent of his own blood and tears mingling with gun oil and the rank stench of sex. Bucky is distraught, and the worst part is it keeps happening. He can deal with Steve one on one... sometimes, but when three or more white men are in a room, he starts to itch between his shoulders where STRIKE loved to stun him while fucking him, he begins to taste the leather of a belt or the dirty soiled panties they would make him wear for a mission, then shove in his noisy hole after they cut it off.

Bucky keeps trying but it is painfully obvious that his mind has come to associate faces and skintones like his own with danger and humiliation and pain- and other racial faces, particularly black men and women, with safety and support.

Sam/Bucky, T'Chucky, or Steve and Bucky slowly and painfully trying to work through this are welcome but I also welcome dead doves and hurt but no solution to this. I am totally fine having Steve with his dayglow whiteness will always be a mild to severe trigger for Bucky, and that will never go away. :3

Re: A lack of pain and fear-Wakanda saves Bucky-(White Dominated spaces=Bad)

[(Anonymous)]

Ooo! I really like this! I once had a thought that the Soldier's fellow prisoners or other HYDRA victims tended to be non-white. Like, the guy in the next cell, or the person charged with cleaning up.

Bucky finds comfort in HTP, a few were his best memories

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, so Bucky spent years being broken into the WS. It took nearly a decade for them to manage to break JBB into The Asset. The HTPs were originally a way to break Bucky down. A direct attack on his self and self identity- except for how it wasn't. Steve was his Dom for years, his skinny weak little angry spitfire that would make him feel so good with a fist in his hair and color checks every time it ramped up a little more.

Bucky has always loved submitting. He has always loved rape play and total power exchanges. Sure these parties were horrifying because he had no actual say in it- but a small part of him loved it, from the very first fist to the spit in his eye as he was left gagging on his fortieth load of cum through the spider gag.

The handlers don't really realize that aspect, until Pierce. Pierce is a Daddy and a Dom, and when the Asset starts acting up and seems to be pushing for a punishment, Pierce watches closely. He learns what makes Bucky cum harder, and instead of HTPs as punishment, they are doled out as rewards. Bucky comes to view Pierce as his own personal Master, his shining star of pain and pleasure. Bucky would die for him, even without the Winter Soldier side of himself.

Bucky post HYDRA reveal is seen as a victim, and logically he can almost see it, but Bucky misses the HYDRA trash so much, and he misses Pierce even more. Stockholm, whatever, he doesn't really care. And worst of all, Steve, who he remembers as being such a wonderful Dom, cries when Bucky starts asking for rape scenes.

How all this shakes out- is up to filler. But I want Bucky feeling nostalgic and missing the brutal rapes and gangbangs. I want Bucky craving the awfulness of the worst the HTP groomed him into loving. I want Bucky trying to fill his needs.

My entire mountain of mouldy chicken nuggets if Nat is the only one that fully grasps and understands his refusal to give up the shreds of joy he had found in the past.

Steve gets wrecked and punished for "liking it"

[(Anonymous)]

I just want 890234134 variations on Steve, the more virginal and repressed the better, getting Hydra-gangbanged through multiple involuntary orgasms, relentlessly fucked and overstimulated while he's too post-orgasmic and sensitive to take any more, and generally ruined until he's gaping and leaking come... then fucked some more, but with all sorts of CBT and hole torture to punish him for "liking it." Stun batons and hole whipping to tighten him up until he can barely take a single finger up his ass (at which point of course they make him take the biggest dick in the group). A spiked cock cage while they fuck him at an angle guaranteed to get him hard. Just... wreck him. Wreck him, force him to get off on it, and wreck him even harder for getting off.

Re: Steve gets wrecked and punished for "liking it"

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck, I live for innocent Steve getting a dose of trash treatment.

Deprogrammed Bucky/Hydra, public humiliation and forced orgasm

[(Anonymous)]

After Bucky has been freed of his former triggers, he joins Steve and several others on a mission that goes horribly wrong and ends with their capture by some of the Asset's former handlers. At first they're pissed to realize their Asset has been 'fixed' and is acting human; they'd wanted to have some fun before killing them all. But then they realize this can actually make things even more fun. They threaten to kill Steve slowly right in front of him if he doesn't subject himself to a good old-fashioned trash party in front of his friends. And they insist on two things: 1) his enthusiastic participation, and 2) as many orgasms as possible.

Basically, I want as much humiliation and shame and forced (and maybe even not-so-forced) orgasms while Bucky is 100% himself and aware of Steve and everyone else being forced to watch and listen. Making him fuck himself on their cocks, making him suck dick like he's greedy for it, making him say thank you repeatedly and making him beg for it, making him moan and keen and come all over himself while being raped and brutalized. Plenty of slut-shaming and verbal humiliation is a necessity, both in call-backs to how the Asset was always such a good whore but also in the way Bucky is clearly enjoying it now and needed to be reminded of his place. And it should go on for quite some time, with many a participant.

Yes please: stun batons (always a crowd-pleaser), bondage gear, brutal spanking/caning/whipping
Nopes: sounding, needles, body horror, bodily fluids other than come/spit/blood

I'm open to pretty much anything not explicitly precluded above; feel free to let your trash heart run wild. If any relationships are included, please be Stucky. Fine with gen, or implied feelings for Steve if that feeds into the shame aspect. My main desire is to see a Bucky whose mind is fully his own for the first time since the fall be torn down, sexually debased and humiliated in front of people he cares for and respects, and made to act as though he likes it. Everything else is window dressing tbh, so however you want to get him there is fair game! Up to you whether there's a rescue and/or eventual resolution.

Re: Deprogrammed Bucky/Hydra, public humiliation and forced orgasm

[(Anonymous)]

Dear levitating bovine hailing from the firmament this is my jam.

I wonder if the viewers would know about the threat? Which is worse, watching Bucky say thank you and beg for more as they fuck him and hurt him until he can’t stand up straight anymore and wonder if maybe he does want it or knowing for an absolute fact that he does not?

But mmm this is some deliciously awful garbage.

Magical Healing Cock- Yet another trigger

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, Bucky/The Asset has always been hard to handle for HYDRA- the Asset, even wiped and broken, had to have orders framed as if they were the just and moral choices. He had to be carefully handled. And while HTP was great for breaking him- the bad men had to be punished- the weak weeded out.

The Magical Healing Cock of Pierce, or whoever was the main handler, was always used to sooth after the party, after the worst missions. Comfort and kindness and sweet touches, praise and pampering aftercare. Bucky and the Asset blending, to open up and fixate on the person who gave him such kindness and order after such a chaotic and harrowing brutal raping/torturing party, trusting them to give him purpose and safety.

Partner (Steve, T'Challa, whoever Author wants) has no clue about all of this. All they know is HYDRA had horrible trash parties, and Bucky is finally free of the awful code *words* after intense sessions with various mind controlling powers and technologies.

They have careful, sweet, loving sex where Partner tries so very hard to make sure Bucky is never triggered to have flashbacks to all his horrific past rapes, going so slow and gently with lots of checking in till he begins to forget to check in as often since it all is going so perfectly. Meanwhile Bucky is sliding into that half Asset, entirely programmable mindset.

When the afterglow settles in, Partner is entirely horrified when Bucky whispers "ready to comply"(Or "your Asset" or something else equally horrifying for the good guy partner) as he nuzzles into his arms.

I know things where accidental triggers have been done before- but I have a craving for caring sex to be a trigger because that is just- something that he would never get with standard HYDRA missions so it makes a great trigger action, and it ruins it for him and partner forever, which is just rancid cherry pits on my gerbil droppings sundae. Also makes any and all his relationship growth, while caring partner was so sweet with him, circumspect as he is programmed to see sexual kindness and sexual intimacy as the ultimate in priority reassignment.

Re: Magical Healing Cock- Yet another trigger

[(Anonymous)]

Oh this is such a delicious prompt!

Bucky has a type- small, frail, pale bratty subs AND butch men that want pain

[(Anonymous)]

Bucky spent decades non-con subbing in HTP spaces, and before that he was a bit of a Daddy himself. He loved taking care of Steve, and nothing made him feel more right in the world than when Stevie would lick and nuzzle his palm, sweaty and breathing slightly harsh, whimpering with pleasure. Nothing made his heart sing like helping his boy or his girls, find bliss and peace under his protective hands.

Bucky after HYDRA struggles with all his rage and enforced powerlessness. He was a protector and a gentle loving Dom before, he knows and remembers dozens of examples of this.

But the things he did with love and care, were all tainted, brought low by the horrible twisted kinks of the hundreds, if not thousands, of men to brutalize and use him over the last 70 decades. He will always remember being so completely and exclusively attracted to small frail sweet boys and girls that he could help bring peace and safety to. Once upon a time before he became a monster, he just wanted to make his partners feel safe and complete. He still has that drive when he looks at sweet little spitfires like Darcy- but what he NEEDS now, is big burly men that want and need to be punched in the face during their play, men that need to be violently forced to accept their place. He needs men that can fight him, and enjoy submitting when he bests them.

Because by the end of his decades of forced service, Bucky had learned to enjoy parts of his abuse... and he needs- not want, not just is aroused by, but needs, to see other men enjoying and craving that debasement too.

He still loves Steve- loves the memory of Stevie- but sweet gentle Dom Bucky can only come out for sweet little frail subs, when Bucky looks at Steve now, he wants to subjugate him, wants to make him like it as he punch fucks him and spits dirty debasing names in his ear. He needs to see him cry and scream and beg with snot and drool and dirt and semen smeared across the runny makeup as he is called a dirty worthless whore, and have him cum from it.

He remembers loving Stevie- but now he loves the fantasy of destroying Steve. And so he tries to find others to sate his two competing desires. Maybe he talks a big guy into a scene, and finds a sweet little girl or boy to dote on and be gentle with. Or maybe, after everything that Steve has gone through, he needs exactly what Bucky wants to give him- as long as afterwards, he can also have the other side- can be powerless and frail enough after he is destroyed- to let Bucky feel that old sweet urge for him as well.

Just please, no overt non-con perpetrated by Bucky. Everything is Risk Aware Consensual Kink. Bucky just happens to be dealing with his HTP past by doing horrible things to willing subs after he strips them of their power- while trying to recapture his self image of who he wants to be, with other (already physically powerless) subs.

Re: Bucky has a type- small, frail, pale bratty subs AND butch men that want pain

[(Anonymous)]

It looks like you already have a lot of specific thoughts and ideas for this, anon, I’d say why not take a shot at writing it yourself?

[(Anonymous)]

So I was rewatching Agent Carter, and I'll avoid too many spoilers in case someone hasn't seen it, but there's a character who is hypnotist and who has ties with the Red Room and later possibly Zola. So it gave me an inspiration for some mindfuck trash, as in, Bucky was never really raped, or tortured beyond the experiments necessary to give him the metal arm and test his abilities, because HYDRA didn't want to risk damaging their property. Instead, his handlers had torture trigger words, to make him feel like he was on fire, or being whipped, being cut, etc.
Shuri stumbles into them when resetting Bucky's brain, and it's then that he realizes these memories are not real. I'd like to see Bucky not dealing with this very well, because he thinks he needs to man up, it wasn't real, killing people is what he needs to feel bad about, that was real, while at the same time being Not Okay because for all intents and purposes it was real for him.

[(Anonymous)]

I accidentally posted it twice, could the mods please delete the spare?

Mental trash

[(Anonymous)]

So I was rewatching Agent Carter, and I'll avoid too many spoilers in case someone hasn't seen it, but there's a character who is hypnotist and who has ties with the Red Room and later possibly Zola. So it gave me an inspiration for some mindfuck trash, as in, Bucky was never really raped, or tortured beyond the experiments necessary to give him the metal arm and test his abilities, because HYDRA didn't want to risk damaging their property. Instead, his handlers had torture trigger words, to make him feel like he was on fire, or being whipped, being cut, etc.
Shuri stumbles into them when resetting Bucky's brain, and it's then that he realizes these memories are not real. I'd like to see Bucky not dealing with this very well, because he thinks he needs to man up, it wasn't real, killing people is what he needs to feel bad about, that was real, while at the same time being Not Okay because for all intents and purposes it was real for him.

Re: Mental trash

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, I love Ivchenko stuff and I loved the Shuri prompt the other day--this would be a great combo.

Natasha/Any, ageplay and sexual innocence

[(Anonymous)]

The Red Room trained its murder ballet dolls to be seductive superspies from childhood, and Nat uses ageplay to deal with that. She likes scenarios where she's a clumsy, innocent young girl just discovering her sexuality and her daddy/other older male authority figure gently teaches her what to do. It's a nice change from the reality where she spent her early teens onwards lolita-ing corrupt Soviet bureaucrats to death.

I don't really mind who the OMC is as long as you can make it convincing, but maybe Coulson or Fury or Sam or Steve would work? Or maybe even a kindly middle-aged anonymous daddy she finds online and has no idea who she really is?

Bucky thinks they're gonna hurt Steve

[(Anonymous)]

Post TWS, Bucky's not worried SHIELD/the Avengers are gonna hurt him -- after all, trash treatment (including everything from whipping to rape) has always been a form of punishment, and he doesn't warrant any. Like, honestly, every military-ish organization has their set of rules, but these are reasonable and easy to learn, and he hasn't made any mistakes since. Steve though, ugh, that little shit. Always out for trouble. Talking back to authorities. Disobeying orders. Never had any proper sense of self preservation.

Then something happens and Steve does actually have a greater fallout with one of their handlers/superiors. He's in trouble, but obviously not in the way Bucky's thinking.

I want everything from Bucky awkwardly trying to comfort Steve before or after the "talk" he's supposed to have, to maybe even trying to take the punishment in Steve's place.

Re: Bucky thinks they're gonna hurt Steve

[(Anonymous)]

I LOVE this, seconded, thirded and fourthed!!

(frozen comment) Winter Soldier Gladiator fights

[(Anonymous)]

So, I didn't really know how to word the title, but the idea is that HYDRA uses Bucky in fighting competitions for fun and/or to prove the superiority of their Asset.

Some ideas:
- Something similar to the scene where Bucky fights the other Winter Soldiers, except people can bet on their favorite.
- They have Bucky fight bears or lions (or go wild and throw him on a tank with a shark or crocodile? It's not like we strive for realism here).
- They set Bucky and one of the girls of the Red Room in some maze and bet on who will take down the other first.
- HYDRA Asset Olympics where each major HYDRA boss brings their best assassin.
- Depending on who he is up against, they remove his arm to make things more interesting.
- Depending on how well he performs, Bucky can choose prizes for himself. You know, valuable things, like getting to shower instead of being hosed down, or eating actual food instead of protein shakes, or an hour outside on a summer day.
- If you want to make it more realistic in a "why would HYDRA risk their unique powerful Asset" way, maybe they have a non lethal damage rule, or if he's fighting an animal, they have people ready to intervene if he is losing.

(frozen comment) Re: Winter Soldier Gladiator fights

[(Anonymous)]

what do you mean, we don't strive for realism here? there is totally an alley of dogs who are eager to fuck the Asset for no apparent reason. the asset can totally survive on being fed anally.

given that this is HTP tho, shouldn't ... yknow .... trash???? be involved somehow??????

Bucky keeps trying to keep Peter from being in trouble-

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. CW-AU where CW never happened or post Reunion where Bucky is part of the newly reunified Avengers.
Bucky was always stressed as hell when people in power, like the UN secretary or whoever, would say cutting things at the team. He would do incredibly awkward things like tell them not to clench up so much, or to remember to breathe and say they understood what they did was wrong even if they didn't.

It was good advice. The weird thing he has for giving them lube and sextoys was awkward but if the man thought they needed to destress, no biggie.

Then Peter joins the team. Peter who is skinny and tiny and bright with laughter and so damn young.

Bucky keeps asking if they are sure he is old enough to be on the team. Peter almost resents it, and Bucky gets more and more upset.

Something happens and Peter does something that goes WRONG.

Bucky immediately goes and tries to take the blame, take the fall, starts trying to shove Peter out of the way and Peter is scared of being thrown off the team but he has to acknowledge he made a mistake.

Bucky winds up hissing or yelling or otherwise saying something about how Peter hasn't even been with a girl yet, he will be ruined by his first punishment, or something like that.

Cue horror as all the Avengers start to reframe all the earlier advice and care he gave them when they got in trouble.

Extra bonus for Bucky trying to scare Peter into backing down and letting him just take the punishment instead or quit the team by being graphic about just how bad reprimands (in HYDRA) can be, with Peter's mike picking it all up.

Entirely up to filler how much fallout and team horror we get afterwards.

Re: Bucky keeps trying to keep Peter from being in trouble-

[(Anonymous)]

Op adding- double trashy bonus: Steve asks why he never tried to stop the others/him from being punished and Bucky looks at him and is just all like - 'You are all grown adults. And I know for a fact you took cock like a champ before the serum. A bit of punishment wouldn't break you.' Or something like that.

Like Bucky really thought they all just, knew the consequences and did things anyways, like Steve starting fights pre-serum. Hell with Steve maybe he hoped it might curb his behavior a little.

Gladiators remix: the ENTRASHENING

[(Anonymous)]

Sad to see a gladiator prompt go away due to the lack of trash, so let's crank the dehumanization up to 11, take a hard left at badwrong, and kink on the wrongness of noncon, shall we?

Gladiator fights, where losing is horrifying and winning ain't so great either.

Some possibilities:
- Losing means losing a limb. Winning means you get an artificial limb. --- option a) The Asset is pointed to as an example of "winning" even though winning just means being put into an experimental limb grafting program that the winner most likely won't survive.
--- option b) early captivity Bucky must win the fights in order to "earn" his limb. So even though he knows winning means bad things happening to other people, he wants to stay alive because he doesn't want Steve to show up to a corpse.
------ maybe, the way to "win" is to pin the other person down and rape them. Or to be the one to remove the limb. Bucky knows *exactly* how that feels -- the humiliation, the dehumanization, etc. But he does it anyway, even though he hates himself for it. And later, when he finds out that Steve's been dead and he did all those horrible things for *nothing*...

WS vs. Widows or other WS gladiator fights, where losing means more "retraining", and winning means a "reward". Except that the reward is super shitty, like:
- being bred, because clearly your genes are better. Cue either being milked for gallons of your sperm, forced to fuck Widows until someone gets pregnant, or getting non-consensually impregnated.
- getting private attention from one of the higher-ups. Basically at the whim of one twisted sadist instead of the usual brutality.
- getting assigned to dole out all the punishments in the future -- being forced to torture/rape/kill others because obviously you're the best at it
- getting a day of "luxury" followed by a wipe to make them forget everything and getting thrown back into the gladiator pits

And throughout all of this -- it's clear that neither combatant wants to fight, but they *have* to fight, Hunger Games style. Is it better to "win" or "lose"? Can you stand to rape/hurt/kill someone who you've trained or grown attached to?

Re: Gladiators remix: the ENTRASHENING

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this! I'm the OP of the Gladiator prompt, and while I understand why it was frozen, this is pretty close to what I wanted (minus the rape/breeding part, I wanted focus on the violence, but I'm cool with it) so thank you so much for being able to trashify it for me when I couldn't. I love the idea of the winner having to rip a limb off the loser, and I love even more the idea that Bucky would do it because he hopes to be rescued by Steve.

Hydra/WS: Skin hunger makes rape a relief

[(Anonymous)]

The Asset is dangerous & unpredictable so no one in Hydra wants to get close enough to touch it. They wear gloves to examine it, use a hose & sponge on a pole to wash it, and keep it sequestered away from its team on missions; they use batons, rifles, and whips to punish it. It's been this way since before the Asset was the Asset.

All this makes the Winter Soldier both desperate for human touch and highly fucked up about believing it's a disgusting, unwanted creature. After decades of this, someone (Pierce?) finally has the balls to get alone in a room with the Asset to rape it, and it's so touch-starved it sobs in bewildered relief and gratitude rather than violation or pain.

Re: Hydra/WS: Skin hunger makes rape a relief

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god- I kinda- wanna fill this??? OP okay if I add the usual Pierce looks like Steve when younger trash sauce? Because hell yes I want Confused!Bucky just leaning into the horrible dirtywrong touches from Pierce, who arches into Pierce putting hickies and marks on him by HAND and just getting so attatched because- it hurts but it also feels- so.... good and different and this person is a good person so the part that feels revulsion and anger and rage must be a bad part of himself.

Must be.